Constructive Critisism

Why dont you just write a book on how to make tunes Jay then we'll be fine, were sick of waiting to be honest.

you are a dick!!

everyone starts somewhere. we cant all be "talented" like you and get a really fit missus

to be honest ive stopped putting stuff in feedback. just make what i make and let myself rip it to bits. want to just come out with stuff after no one hearing what ive been doing for quite a while. no influence from anyone else. hopefully should help make my own style. thats the logic anyway

Very similar approach as myself but every now and again stick a track up just to gauge how im getting along. But without getting any feedback/critisism I just seem to be going nowhere fast.. 

best way is to criticise yourself mate. i dont want my music to be made in others opinion. get it how i want it and to a good production standard. then if the content is shit i will listen

i dont even know what genre im making at the minute. a mix of prog,electro,house,hard house,techno. cant get one specific solid sound. quite annoying really.

would any of the recognised producers on here be up for being nominated as specific people for giving feedback.???Agreed the style wont be to everyone's taste but good positve or negative feedback on technical aspects would be really beneficial..

I often listen to peoples tunes and if i feel i can give worthwhile feedback i will but sadly not having really had hardly any production experience myself i think my comments would be pretty worthless atm.

I'm so glad I don't buy tunes anymore, I would hate to think I was supporting pricks like this on the scene.  Plus its all been done before so if I dug around deep enough I know I'd be able to find some Parrish tunes somewhere. 

Id leave some feedback but no one would read my essays... lol

go for it. im sure people would

I would too.  More so than your hardware essays!

would too si... TBH tho i dont think im ready for the feedback section haha

 

But surely any feedback is good, whether its from some1 technically minded or not.. its good to know whether people like or dislike the tune/idea

Do it Si.

We need more feedback from producers who know what a melody is.

There's more to music than NRG people.  (Nothing wrong with NRG either) It seems to be the only style given any attention on here.

Please do Si, last time I asked you for some feedback you helped loads..  

 

I dont see why you need to know about producing to give a decent opinion on why a track is good or not, especially if you buy a lot of music - it makes no diffference if you know why you like the tracks you like and dont like the tracks you dont. Its not like people need to be really specific and say "you need to turn the flux capacitor dial up to 7.5 and go easy on th dylethium bass machine" just it lacks bass or highs, and gets boring after the break would probably be sufficient

you have some truth in what you say.

I have released tracks i hated only to sell loads of them and told it was one of my best , I have also heard tracks i thought shit but DJ mates laughing at me saying NO WAY, this is a great track and so popular!! just watch when i play it!! made eh?! and fuckin confusing when trying to compose your best for the public only to get nowhere with it as they hate it?!

There is no right or wrong way to produce or mixdown....but like with what i have been going through with lack of bass or bad monitoring, there can be improvements on what you actually hear in the studio and get as close as you can to a succesful commercial recording.

One track may be boring but DJ's need fillers to enhance their Anthems, if we all done anthems then the DJ sets would be too rich.

what i think we all want is an anthem as this is the one track that will hopefully drag you out of the 'same old' and into some sort of fame. This together with Filler tracks will make a good balance for your demo selection. We dont want 10 tracks of the same otherwise it just seems one neverending track (like some hardhouse sets these days )

Mixdown is an art in itself and can make your anthem stand out but practice makes perfect and tough critisism is the key as there aint no prisoners when trying to sell your track to the public or when its played out live at your gig!! Best to at least try to get it right before emptying the dance floor!!

I say it as it is....if its shit to me then i will just say it aint my cup of tea...if its a bad mixdown then i will say why i think its a bad mixdown. I know i aint put anything out myself for a while but that doesnt mean i dont know what im talking about with dance music, i too want perfect...even more so as i have a higher threashold to meet....my speakers aint been right either so this issue had to be sorted....plus ive been getting to grips with my new setup and softsynths. I have a policy to be totally compitent with my setup before even trying to push anything further....so its learn as much as i can first......then i dont look a dick in front of clients or co-producers.

i did it. I provoked the essay monster :o) only kidding simon. Its true though, ive read a few posts about people not thinking they are qualified to give feedback because they havent had tunes out, but they are probably the kind of people the tunes are made for, people who react to them on the dancefloor. I havent left much feedback for years as i dont really go out and listen to harder music anymore so i dont really know whats been happening since about 2001

Im off work for 2wks so i dont see why i cant leave some decent feedback.

Its the reason i have only posted 1 tune in there in the last 6 months, i dont need people to tell me they like it or dont, i need people to tell me if the kick sounds good on there system, if kick/bass work well together, is there enough percussion is something to loud etc.

If we all do 1 reply a day the Feedback forum would be excellent.

hi guys, i've just joined these forums for some advice on production. I've just poseted a link in the feedback forum to a track i've attempted. I'll also download and give feedback on others tracks too. Unfortunately i don't have sound at work and no net at home, so i can only download files and give my thoughts that way (i won't be able to hear tracks that are streamed via the net)

 

When i posted looking for feedback it was more for technical stuff as im confident my stuff is good but im not happy with the sound!! I was assured that this was the website for honest constructive feedback with which i could use to better my skills and while i did get some feedback (which i was delighted to get) i got no feedback which i could have used to make it better!! I have picked up a few tips from here as well as some good tutorials (again which i am delighted with) and quite like the site in general but the thing i hoped for most the feedback on tunes from names i knew giving there prized opinion has never happened!! While it has been a bit of a downer for me i shall plough on anyway!! I gave a cd of 6 tracks mixed over a year ago to Mark Kavanagh and a few days later he replyed to me saying he liked it but maybe some more work on the beats, i knew what he ment they were not defined enough but that comment was enough for me to go back to the drawin board with an boost to keep going!!

I've been posting feedback for years. The amount I type varies on who is posting it.

EG: If NICK the Greek posts a track he's been working on, he hardly needs me to give him advice on how to get a phat bass sound or whether his EQing needs work. If it is a new producer and his song structure is out of the window I will comment on that, I wont break down the track into segments if there is one huge flaw in my eyes..

I know this is a terrible example but its like giving change to a bum; sometimes you're in the mood, sometimes you're not

i suggest getting feedback from real live people... someone you know?

 

heh

 

keep posting your material on here though, someone may have a great bit of advise for you, but don't hold your breath

 

david

there's always been prick djs and producers though, hasn't there?

aint that the truth... they act that way cuz they hate themselves though

We didnt have the net back then and relied on just playing the track out....but it DID have to pass the test of the DJ playing it, if they were behind it then it stood out when played as they were proud of it.

We also had hard nosed dicks called A&R too...or ,ore like failed composers.... not all were though as they too were DJ's and knew what worked and what didnt.

The flow of the arrangement was just as important.... that break that lasted just right so when the punters antisipated that big drop into the main riff...it actually happened....and when the melody was supposed to come in...it actually did. some just over produce and ruin the raw basics of a track and its natural flow.

Having too much going on at any one time can be just as bad as bad mixdown levels, so sometimes you may not need several drum layers, bass layers or synths or some tracks that are ment to be anthems just dont have the right melody so the track becaomes a 'filler' but too busy to be a filler

As i said, no right or wrong but the balance has to be right if you want to shine out past the usual and the 'safe' tracks or genres....

If you find you or someone else cant remember your track after just one night of play then you aint gonna sell very many and the punters will forget too.

agreed. less can be more in tracks. Something catchy in there in order to sell.