Getting "the professionals" in to do a job!

Nothing happened to me but I remember when my school was going through massive refurbishment- building new science and art blocks and a new canteen.

They built everything and it all looked fantastic however realised you could only fit a small amount of people in the canteen.

Turns out they'd missed '0' off the measurements and built it half the size it was meant to be!! Can't believe the retards only noticed once they'd built the entire thing!!

builders are usually the worst, i'ev just had some work dona and got me old man to supervise the crew so they did a good job.

Knew a bloke who trained to be a plumber and kept setting fire to things, fuck knows how

It's attitude when it comes down to it.  People are generally lazy and just want money for nothing.  If some people have enough new customers they can happily get away with it.  Now if there was more competition it may force some of these people out of business.

I have always thought that there should be some sort of forum or place people can go to find services/workmen where they have been reviewed by previous customers etc.  I personally haven't had any bad experiences with them (yet) but have had many with dodgy car mechanics/garages.

I once got a plumber in who wanted about £80 to fit a washing machine that he pointed out had the points ready and just need a hole for the waste pipe.  By being vocal about what needed doing he effectively told me so I did it myself and have done a couple more times after house moves

When I was 15 we had a plumber round to fix a leaky radiator in my bedroom. When I got home from school my imported copy of Final Fantasy 8 on the Playstation 1 had been pinched from my room!!!!! Wasn't even out in the UK til 5 months later so the plumber had pinched it.

   I love people moaning about builders. Because its always their own fault generally by trying to get it on the cheap. Not always but more pften than not.

Only five percent of any building problems happen at the chalk face. 95% can be directly attributed to the stupidity and lack practical knowledge of people like achitects and engineers or clients not knowing what they actually want.

If its wrong, or missed of the plans, dont expect to get it for free  if its takes more time and materials as a result, then expect to get charged.  HEAPS  

Good and cheap just dont go together anymore than a new merc can be bought for the same price as an old skoda.  

Trades people aint there to do favors just because you have a shity old  house which will cost a fortune to fix, expect to pay for it  

If a builder comes to look at the job, he should allow for the time it takes to look at it and price it in the quote. Its called "the consumer pays" its a business afterall. 

If your looking for a cheap price then you,ll most always get a dodgy builder or trademan who will take short cuts

The only reason people give cheap prices is because they know they are useless and it will be a rough job, or they dont have enough work, the reasons being that they are useless anyway and word has got around so no repeat business

No one wants to fix up someone else's shit work, especially when the homeowner has "had a go at it, and fucked it up  expect to pay heaps  to put it right  

The smaller the job, the higher the cost, so expect to pay for, travelling time, lunch time, sitting around having a fag time, phoneing up your mates, time, and snooping round your house time.  

Always best to get someone from a firm that employs trade people as staff. May cost a bit more but the results are generally much better.  

 Dont be a tight bastard,  get your hand in ya pocket.  

 Then in general its the customers fault for not doing their home work, checking previous work done , references etc.

Usually it goes with trying to get a cheap price

I will say though that there are bastards around who scam old ladies and such but its no different to any other industry. There,s good and bad

I got the decorators in once....

 After my sex change.. 

  And if your working with an Architect having priced the plans by tender.  the Architect fucks it up as they inevitably do, the client dos'nt check the plans thouroughly, it goes out for tender and the lowest price gets it  then the stupid client wonders why he's not getting half the things he wanted.  

Because its not on the plans you stupid git   Then things that are totally nessesary become extra work and the client has to pay for them and thinks the builders should have allowed for them in the first place

Sorry, but your a fucking idiot Mr and Mrs client, no one allows for anything thats not on the plans in a competetive tender otherwise one would'nt get the contract because tenders go to the lowest price.  So it has to be done anyway because the architect missed it on the plans and spec.  then the builder charges the client "extras"  and the client thinks he's a cunt and goes whinging to the architect who questions the price the builders charges because he's embarrased because he "the architect" fucked it up in the first place. So then the builder gets his QS to qualify his prices, and the stupid architect believes the Qs because  he sees the QS as a "profesional". But in reality the builders has told the QS what price he has to justify to the client.  

Sometimes  the fuck ups by the designer or achitect are so extreme, that the end price is double or more than the original tendered price and the client has to find the money   

had a couple of those in my time when i was building, one went from a tendered price of 260k to a final price of over 600k.  And anpther from 800k to well over 1.5 million. We got paid and i advised the client to take whatever he could from the architects fees because he's made so many fuck ups.

Its all a game really.  One in which you get what you pay for same as anything else.

Besides. what may look expensive today in doing up or building a house or whatever looks like peanuts ten years down the track  

yes yes yes mate.    It does mean that a contractor or builder who has a reputation for doing good work, generally means that they do good work. They/he have built their reputation on just that. Thats why top architects select top builders to work with, because the quality of the build reflects back on the architect. Shit architects also get top builers to tender their work, and it turns to shit. back to the planning stage.

I saw heaps of builders go broke in the time i ran my building company, and inevitably they traded under names like " right price builders"  or shit like "perfect construction"  and such and generally they built shit quality. Dangerous name that one as building is'nt an "exact science".

Builders and contractors dont get paid to do bad work, they end up with bad debts instead.

Additional things that need doing that ar,nt forseen at the beginning should'nt reflect on the quality of the job at all  They merely increase the price to the client. Maybe a case of a lack of ecpertise on the builders part or the architects part or whomever determines the scope and scale of the work. Hence 95 of problems experienced in a building contract originate at the planning stage.  So its a case of using professionals. Problem is, that most people are either too  mean to spend the money or too tight fisted to part with it to do it properly. Then they moan like fuck when it turns to shit and bites them in the arse

So if its a simple fix this job, then get a local handyman in. But handyman work, aint building, its no where near it.