Diazepam

The doctors has prescribed me some of these for my upcoming holiday flight.  I am still not entirely sure what they will do.  Anyone know and will they help or make me semi-concious?

Always  take a sleeping pill or somat on a long haul flight.   Great when you arrive at the other end feeling refreshed rather than half dead though no sleep

The flight is 4hr 40mins and realistically I want to be ready for partying a couple of hours after we land .  If Diazepam won't be enough I could do a few vodkas and Nytol as well and see what happens

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Take the Diazepam before you fly. It will work, and you shouldn't need other stuff with them.

Like I said, don't drink alcohol with diazepam.

I was joking.  I hate flying enough to be sensible about this.  In an ideal world I would like to pass out just as we taxi to the runway and then wake we are just about at the terminal.  Like me 30 minute snooze this morning that felt like 30 seconds

Dosage is 2mg.  On the way out flight is 9am so I have been told to take one the night before and 2 at check in.  I imagine it will be 3-4pm before we have our room and are ready to grab a beer and some food.   

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Dont over do it boss can really do you over, one of my old school mates died from taking them and drinking. 7 of them and half a bottle of vodka, feel asleep and never woke up .

I will definately be more careful

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they work very nicely at taking away anxiety. diazepam is valium so have a few drinks on them and you'll get a bit wobbly

Ah is it?  I didn't know that.  I won't be drinking on them and right now I am thinking that I may not even drink later on in the evening after taking the last dosage before 9am.  Will have to see. 

I have the horrible feeling that this is set up to go wrong.  I will take as per doctors instructions at check in and then find out on the other side we have a long delay

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In an ideal world I would like to pass out just as we taxi to the runway and then wake we are just about at the terminal.  Like me 30 minute snooze this morning that felt like 30 seconds

Wrong. In an ideal world you'd take the tablets before you even left the house as statistically you're 6 times more likely to die driving to the airport as you are on the plane

You also have more chance of being struck by lighting so be real careful with those thunderstorms

Are the plane stats not calculated by distance rather than number of passengers and journeys though? 

Phobias are not logical enough to relate to stats anyway.  I am not a very comfortable passenger in any form of transport generally anyway.  I was never brilliantly happy with flying but one experience pushed that from something I am not keen on to a phobia.  I will be much more comfortable when my Mrs is driving us into Leeds, on the train to the airport, on the transfer etc than on the plane.  It doesn't matter which is the more dangerous form of transport.

If it did anything it would make me more nervous of other forms of transport without improving the flying thing.

Once I get back from this holiday I am going to look into more long term solutions.  Someone on here before suggested I should get a book from Paul McKenna I think and that may help. 

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they work very nicely at taking away anxiety. diazepam is valium so have a few drinks on them and you'll get a bit wobbly

Ah is it?  I didn't know that.  I won't be drinking on them and right now I am thinking that I may not even drink later on in the evening after taking the last dosage before 9am.  Will have to see. 

I have the horrible feeling that this is set up to go wrong.  I will take as per doctors instructions at check in and then find out on the other side we have a long delay

you won't need to drink on them. they chill you out enough to not be itching for a drink from nerves about the flight. i can't really see what could go wrong if you don't drink on them

As per what I put.  I take them where instructed and they veg me out nicely but we are stuck in the terminal due to delays

The drinking will be more about actually being there and away from stresses of life later on.  I can knock it on the head for the first afternoon/evening there anyway.  Beer with breakfast the day after though

I took 2 Valium on the flight to Thailand, woke up 7 hours later felt fine

Once Ive been clubbing for a whole wknd, and flew to Israel straight after Twist Sunday morning, bought some Happy 5's (I'm pretty sure that's the clubbing name for Diazepam) took one woke up when we landed (5 hrs flight) absolutely fucked. couldn't move my legs. the few times I took them happy 5's to go to sleep after clubbing it ruined me when I woke up.

When you are in a car you feel a sense of control that you don't get when you are a passenger of a plane 30000 ft up. 

I was flying from Belfast to Southampton once on a small British Airways jet and as we coming into land the pilot announced that the landing gear would not come down.   He said not to worry as in a few moments the Co-pilot will walk through aisle to manually release the landing gear.  Sure enough, co-pilot walked through with what can best be described as a Big Spanner.  He lifted up the carpet and wound down the landing gear with it.    He stood up and gave the thumbs up and everyone cheered.   The funniest thing was when he got back to the cockpit the Captain came out and double checked, then gave two thumbs up.    We landed safely but it was a bit hairy.  We got followed by the Fire crew all the way to the terminal.   We found out later that there was also a problem with landing gear locked indicator, so even though it was down there was no guarentee it had locked into place.   Thank fuck they kept little nugget to themselves though!!

Oh and there was another time when I was flying to Canada in a Hercules and an engine caught fire,  and we literally dived about 5000 ft in seconds to put it out, then landed on 3 engines.  

I love flying!

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Are the plane stats not calculated by distance rather than number of passengers and journeys though? 

Phobias are not logical enough to relate to stats anyway.  I am not a very comfortable passenger in any form of transport generally anyway.  I was never brilliantly happy with flying but one experience pushed that from something I am not keen on to a phobia.  I will be much more comfortable when my Mrs is driving us into Leeds, on the train to the airport, on the transfer etc than on the plane.  It doesn't matter which is the more dangerous form of transport.

If it did anything it would make me more nervous of other forms of transport without improving the flying thing.

Once I get back from this holiday I am going to look into more long term solutions.  Someone on here before suggested I should get a book from Paul McKenna I think and that may help. 

Per passenger per mile there are 6 times more deaths on the roads in Britain than in the air on a British airline

Fear of flying is irrational but as you said, phobias don't account for rational thinking. One of my uncles is a bit if an hard bastard but show him a spider and he'll run out the room screaming. Now that's seriously irrational but you can't help the way you think I suppose. I'm lucky in that I have no real phobias.

What was your bad experience ?

A plane that was chartered by my company for the Euro 2000 game against Romnia (I won tickets) and was going for take off when it had a frontlanding gear problem.  Ended up snaking about on the runway, stuff flying around in the plane and 2-3 panels fell out the celling, 1 of them clonked a guy on the head.  We were near the back and the plane was bending a little as it was skidding about.  Apparently the hyrdraulix had broke and locked it sidewards as it was accelerating.  We had to get out of the plane on Stanstead run way and onto a bus back to the hospitallity bit. 

Have flown a few times since and had a small BA plane land in bad wind at Manchester by getting one wheel down on one side with the wing nearly touching the runway and then slam the other side down.  Probably pretty common TBH but with me already having a phobia did not help.  My nerves were also not helped by the fact I wandered out of arrivals and had someone randonly leap at me and grabbed me  Was my Mrs though who had caught the train to the airport to meet me unexpectidly

 yes now give me them pills god damn it

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same group of drugs but they're considered to be a lot stronger in effect than diazepam:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimetazepam 

as with all benzodiazapines they are very dangerous if mis-used or over used.

YOu can very quickly become dependant on them and the 2mg just won't do and you will want 4mg 6mg 8mg to have the same sleepy effect.

Stay clear of Benzo's if you can, Doctors prescribe it and then we have to sort people out who decide its too good to live without it.

Exactly what he said..

I had a serious addiction to these for about 4 years and the doctor just kept prescribing me more and more..

They really fuck your head up..And if its your first time taking them deffinitly dont drink while on them you wont be able to function....And dont take them if you have indulged in anything else either as this can have serious concequences

Diazepam  

lovely drug ,got 20 ,2mg tabs of the doc when i hurt my neck ,took 10 with a couple of cans of stella and was totally fucked for about an hour then crashed out and woke up 6 hours l8r feeling fine

If I could do the flight comfortably on a few beers I would do to be honest but I need to try something else this time around.  I am not going to drink around them and just take the dosage.  I do have a bit of an adictive personality at times but am not going to let myself get hooked on them

While we're on the subject... Anyone got any spare diazes / vals? I need a load for my flight next month. I can pay via paypal. Pm me.

Mmmmmmmm Valium

I intend to bring loads of it back with me when I visit Laos & Cambodia in January

Of course it does

In short- no it doesn't.

Valium is an anti anxiety drug so when you take it you calm down and feel very comfortable- like being wrapped in a big cosy duvet.

Howver sleep is much easier on it because it's reduced your mind to a state of calm. You don't worry about anything so you're chilled out enough to drop off nice and easy.

I've used it many times after clubbing when i've felt too wired to sleep- 10mg of the stuff chills me right out and enables me to nod off.

I also take it when flying long haul- even if I don't want to sleep.

Not had any for months and months though

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This time last yearI was getting D10's for a €1 each off a mate, nothin better when your on a come down just neck 3 of them and wake up 8 hours later feeling top notch.

If they are the same thing it kind of works out a tiny bit cheaper on prescription

They are the same thing John, however I think you said the ones you got were 2 mg, the ones I was gettin were 10mg and the amount me and my mates were goin through I think any doctor may have become a little suspicious and stopped prescribing them.

Ah, mine are dearer then.  What amazed me is that I walked in and said why I was there and he just asked me how long the flight was and when it was and did me the prescription.  I would have thought he would have checked out more or wanted proof of tickets or something.  Especially considering people take them for fun

Think they are 10mg though not 2mg

You take up to 6 10mg tablets of Valium at a time???!!!!

Surely that's overdose quantities