Mac For Music Production ?

 
7 months ago
Craig Stuart
craigyboy Pic4475 Posts
United Kingdomleeds
Music Style owt that pisses my dad off
Whats best to get?

Thinking of buying but i know fuck all about them. Wanna get logic too.

Any advice on soundcards too ?

EDIT : i have a m-audio 192 sound card can i wack that in a mac pro?

Post edited by owner 10/25/2011 2:01:09 PM
7 months ago
GeneticJunk
kingston Pic3017 Posts
EnglandLeeds
Music Style Hardhouse/Psy/Techno
a pro mac is the obvious choice if you can afford one thumbsup

you can pick a good spec G5 up for afew hundred these days, was loads of basic 1.8ghz 1 Gig Ram models for like 90 quid on ebay few weeks back
7 months ago
Dicky
daftfluff Pic7672 Posts
EnglandBedworth
Music Style loads of stuff.
get an intel based Mac. no support now for G Macs. 

Go for a Macbook Pro mate. I say that as I know that you DJ so you could use it as a production machine and for gigs with traktor etc etc. You can then hook it up to a bigger monitor at home to produce on.

plenty of decent Macbook Pro's going on ebay.
thumbsup

Post edited by owner 10/25/2011 2:06:01 PM
7 months ago
Dicky
daftfluff Pic7672 Posts
EnglandBedworth
Music Style loads of stuff.
get him to set up your soundcard and stuff before you purchase, even if you have to buy it first and send it to him for the build. That way you know you're getting a fully working machine for what you want straight out of the box, no hassle.
7 months ago
Dicky
daftfluff Pic7672 Posts
EnglandBedworth
Music Style loads of stuff.
I did think about the hackintosh route but the whole reason I wanted a Mac was because Windows kept bugging out. Didn't want to chance it fucking up with Apple so went the full iMac with 3 year care plan instead. More expensive machine but worth every penny. iMac 27inch i5 quad core 4GB RAM and it hasn't fucked up once, no stutters, screen drop outs, unplanned restarts, nothing. Will put more Ram in once the 3 years is up. But I can't see me getting another machine for quite some time. 

Music software will move on and become more CPU hungry but Im content with a rock solid copy of snow leopard 10.6.8 & Logic 9. Will take something special to make me change set ups now.
7 months ago
GeneticJunk
kingston Pic3017 Posts
EnglandLeeds
Music Style Hardhouse/Psy/Techno
In reply to
get him to set up your soundcard and stuff before you purchase, even if you have to buy it first and send it to him for the build. That way you know you're getting a fully working machine for what you want straight out of the box, no hassle.
that thumbsup
hackintosh can be a fucking pain to get working correctly if u dont know exactly what your doing
or just make sure you get/have a sound card that is known to work with Snow Leopard

Post edited by owner 10/25/2011 5:04:02 PM
7 months ago
Bishop
skinnypuppy Pic2145 Posts
United KingdomSaf East
Music Style Really hard Kick drums!

I've just taken the plunge and bought myself a 15" MacBook Pro. 2.00Ghz i7 with 8GB RAM.

 

Turned up today, so haven't had the chance to play with it yet.

 

One thing worth mentioning is that it's pretty easy to get yourself an educational discount. I just gave a friend of mine who's at Uni a list of what I wanted and got her to order it for me. 15% discount straight away.  thumbsup

 

7 months ago
GeneticJunk
kingston Pic3017 Posts
EnglandLeeds
Music Style Hardhouse/Psy/Techno
In reply to
One thing worth mentioning is that it's pretty easy to get yourself an educational discount. I just gave a friend of mine who's at Uni a list of what I wanted and got her to order it for me. 15% discount straight away.  thumbsup
good advice, got told about this at college

7 months ago
Craig Stuart
craigyboy Pic4475 Posts
United Kingdomleeds
Music Style owt that pisses my dad off

One thing worth mentioning is that it's pretty easy to get yourself an educational discount. I just gave a friend of mine who's at Uni a list of what I wanted and got her to order it for me. 15% discount straight away.  thumbsup

 


can you get the discount on finance too?
7 months ago
BoneIDOL
wrongone Pic708 Posts
United Kingdom
Music Style Jazzy Gabba with a hint country \o/
Yeah it is defo worth going the student discount route I got almost £400 off my MBP but ring up and do it rather then ordering it over the net as you will get more of a discount and I think you can still get finance with the student discount.thumbsup
7 months ago
GeneticJunk
kingston Pic3017 Posts
EnglandLeeds
Music Style Hardhouse/Psy/Techno
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Yeah it is defo worth going the student discount route I got almost £400 off my MBP but ring up and do it rather then ordering it over the net as you will get more of a discount and I think you can still get finance with the student discount.thumbsup
think its 20 or 25% init?
7 months ago
BoneIDOL
wrongone Pic708 Posts
United Kingdom
Music Style Jazzy Gabba with a hint country \o/
Yeah think it was just over 20% and I got apple care for £50 instead of £280.

Also worth checking out the refurbished mac's in the apple store as you can still get 3 years apple care with them.supercool
7 months ago
Tony Kaos
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I did think about the hackintosh route but the whole reason I wanted a Mac was because Windows kept bugging out. Didn't want to chance it fucking up with Apple so went the full iMac with 3 year care plan instead. More expensive machine but worth every penny. iMac 27inch i5 quad core 4GB RAM and it hasn't fucked up once, no stutters, screen drop outs, unplanned restarts, nothing. Will put more Ram in once the 3 years is up. But I can't see me getting another machine for quite some time. 

Music software will move on and become more CPU hungry but Im content with a rock solid copy of snow leopard 10.6.8 & Logic 9. Will take something special to make me change set ups now.


Thats a weapon of a machine!! Double up on ur ram n u'll be set for ever!! lol. 
Couldn't agree more tho m8, I got my hands on the 1st gen unibody MBP with a duel-core, runs logic 9 nicely! Itchin to upgrade to the i5 tho, then I'll be properly contented as well!

IMO, what you spend extra when buying a mac, you're likely to save in PC repairs over the course of a machines lifetime, even more so with Applecare!  
7 months ago
Craig Stuart
craigyboy Pic4475 Posts
United Kingdomleeds
Music Style owt that pisses my dad off
In reply to
a pro mac is the obvious choice if you can afford one thumbsup

you can pick a good spec G5 up for afew hundred these days, was loads of basic 1.8ghz 1 Gig Ram models for like 90 quid on ebay few weeks back


prob go for a g5. didnt even know about them. thanks smile
7 months ago
GeneticJunk
kingston Pic3017 Posts
EnglandLeeds
Music Style Hardhouse/Psy/Techno
In reply to
In reply to
a pro mac is the obvious choice if you can afford one thumbsup

you can pick a good spec G5 up for afew hundred these days, was loads of basic 1.8ghz 1 Gig Ram models for like 90 quid on ebay few weeks back


prob go for a g5. didnt even know about them. thanks smile
just be aware that post intel-mac software wont run on a G5
7 months ago
Aaron Kuruption
797 Posts
AustraliaSunshine Coast
Music Style Gurner Music!

Mate read the post above yours again.  Anything post intel most probably will not run on the G5.  I know a lot of older vst's i've tried to run won't run on my intel mac.  Not even sure if logic 9 would run on a G5?
7 months ago
Craig Stuart
craigyboy Pic4475 Posts
United Kingdomleeds
Music Style owt that pisses my dad off
right then. im thinking of building a hackintosh reccomended build on here  http://tonymacx86.blogspot.com/search/label/CustoMac

its the 1 at $442 down the page

been watching some youtube vids . looks pretty simple to do

Post edited by owner 11/2/2011 12:01:30 AM
7 months ago
Simon Parkes - FrozenUK
sjp Pic8966 Posts
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A hackintosh is a really great way into the world of mac.....but you need patience and read up on the hardware needed that needs very little in the way of changed kexts (the Macs DLL's/Drivers)

I was lucky with my Dell Laptop as it had similar insides to a macbook pro and ran on OSX Leopard virtually unchanged (Vanilla) but not successfully upgraded to Sow leopard as yet. It works well with Logic 9.14... so no need for SL!!

I finally got an imac and realised i wish i'd saved and gone straight to mac...you still cant beat the real thing. Mainly due to stability and not wondering if i can get a specific driver to run the hardware...

Decent VST's (or AU's) need decent processing power and memory.... dont limit yourself.

But if you get the right machine or right PC hardware combination and decent Hackintosh tutorial...then you will be extremely happy you went mac thumbsup
7 months ago
NooNoo
noonoo Pic3377 Posts
EnglandChes vegas
Music Style Hard Fucking NRG
Deffo seriously thinkin of switching to logic 9 after havin a proper play with it. Hackintosh seems very very tempting, but goin to buy 1 pre built/ready to run.
http://www.applehacks.co.uk/ is only based in Derby, so should be good for after support as half hour from me.
http://www.applehacks.co.uk/i7_2600K_BitFenix_Merc_and_Coolermaster_500W_PSU/p801222_4705643.aspx this 1 seems good for the ££?
7 months ago
NooNoo
noonoo Pic3377 Posts
EnglandChes vegas
Music Style Hard Fucking NRG

Any advice on soundcards too ?

EDIT : i have a m-audio 192 sound card can i wack that in a mac pro?

Check M audio's driver database dude, got some for my old Ozone the other week, to run on a mates macbook pro running Lion idea
6 months ago
Applehacks
3 Posts
United KingdomDerby
Music Style Everything
I make these machines and do not have stability issues of any kind. I always advise that if you have the money go for the real thing. My machines are for gamers, dual booters, and students to use as a gateway to the world of mac. I just want people to get better hardware for their hard earned cash. I have built over 50 machines now all retail non pirated software and have never had one sent back.

With all that said as long as you don't plan to poke around you really don't need to know anything about mac drivers and the such. I am very pleased that my creations at applehacks.co.uk are reaching the right audience. Thank you for the mention.
6 months ago
Simon Parkes - FrozenUK
sjp Pic8966 Posts
WalesLlanidloes
Music Style Melodic
In reply to
I make these machines and do not have stability issues of any kind. I always advise that if you have the money go for the real thing. My machines are for gamers, dual booters, and students to use as a gateway to the world of mac. I just want people to get better hardware for their hard earned cash. I have built over 50 machines now all retail non pirated software and have never had one sent back.

With all that said as long as you don't plan to poke around you really don't need to know anything about mac drivers and the such. I am very pleased that my creations at applehacks.co.uk are reaching the right audience. Thank you for the mention.
All ok as long as you plan the machine around OSx not the other way around! just a tip.
6 months ago
Applehacks
3 Posts
United KingdomDerby
Music Style Everything
I have been making machines for studio use recently running Logic 9 with FireWire m-Audio devices. As Apple decided to go the intel route most hardware will work on a hackintosh it is just a case of finding the correct combination. I am working on a six core i7 3930K quote at the moment. Studio hacks are somewhat easier as the on board sound is not usually needed as external FireWire devices are preferred, this opens up a few more motherboard combinations. Also since the second generation Core i processors have integrated HD graphics there is generally no need for complicated graphics card setups.

If anybody would like to know more http://www.applehacks.co.uk
6 months ago
ChrisB
chrisbatski Pic2414 Posts
PeruIquitos Amazonia
Music Style Any GOOD Music
i bought my mac pro for 1000 with a mac monitor its 8core as well, i would just buy the real deal if you can afford it, I love it i was using my laptop before which was blasting upto 100%cpu use all the time my mac pro hardly breaks a sweat
6 months ago
AMH
amh Pic1136 Posts
United KingdomHalifax
Music Style Hard Stuff

A year or two ago i'd big a mac up....

But to go to a mac for logic is insane, it's got a nice charm about it, but it feel dated... because imo it is.

That leaves the hardware itself, and for the same price a quid for quid fight between the mac and a pc, would be like pitting stephen hawkins against tyson.

 

Not to mention more VST, more hardware support etc etc etc. Also if your mac goes tits, its an expensive do to sort out, whereas pc is like a 6 piece jigsaw puzzle you can fix yourself for cheap. I built my mate a 8gb ram, 2TB HDD and 4.2Ghz i5 CPU for 400 quid with a mediocre graphics card = win.

 

Simple things can also become a chore... and most people I know with macs end up using bootcamp to install windows on it....

 

A modern MAC is pc components now, just an overpriced variant... and thats the truth. If you insist on logic, then build a hackintosh....

 

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