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I just want to say that looking at some of the threads for tips and tricks for established and up and coming producers I think it is really good idea as it seems that by sharing the love it is helping people get better. When I was into music I honestly believe I was just winging it because when I read some of the advice I have absolutely no idea what some of it means, come to think of it I couldnt tell you how to work even the most basic of compressors ( just a pre set boy)!!! I think if you're serious about music and want to learn the advice and ideas around are amazing. I suppose this is a admition to myself that although I enjoy music I really do not have a clue of even the basic knowledge needed to get results that I wanted. Id just bang a kick on a sequencer, put a compressor on it ( why i dont know) then put some loops in and make a very basic melody!!! The advice on here is second to none and all you guys that read it that dont come on here that often please take note as these guys know what theyre talking about.

6 months ago

Matt Capitani
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Iain has shared some good tips on here lately plus the threads that Jay setup was a great idea

Some tips definately but there is a fine line of sharing some tips and then sharing too much and taking business away from engineers out there willing to provide tuition etc, knowledge is gold in a producers mind and competitive enough as it is if they make a living from it lol but tips here and there is useful for whoever is looking to learn more including myself (edit: learning all the time) smile thumbsup

Post edited by owner 23/11/2011 21:43:35

6 months ago

Cmon Matt, don't be modest! You're not learning, you've mastered it! screwu

6 months ago

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Cmon Matt, don't be modest! You're not learning, you've mastered it! screwu

ffs.. when I was writing that I thought, I bet Athan will comment on this later violent

6 months ago

Stop thinking about me ya gay cunt violent

6 months ago

Dramatik
3889 Posts

Adelaide

Heavy basslines

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Cmon Matt, don't be modest! You're not learning, you've mastered it! screwu

6 months ago

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Iain has shared some good tips on here lately plus the threads that Jay setup was a great idea

Some tips definately but there is a fine line of sharing some tips and then sharing too much and taking business away from engineers out there willing to provide tuition etc, knowledge is gold in a producers mind and competitive enough as it is if they make a living from it lol but tips here and there is useful for whoever is looking to learn more including myself (edit: learning all the time) smile thumbsup

What a load of shit.

6 months ago

Iain
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Manchester

Better to share knowledge - it can only help the scene. People complain about the number of badly produced tracks out there which is diluting the scene with bad music... Not everyone can afford a. Engineers fees or b. Expensive production courses...

6 months ago

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Better to share knowledge - it can only help the scene. People complain about the number of badly produced tracks out there which is diluting the scene with bad music... Not everyone can afford a. Engineers fees or b. Expensive production courses...

Exactly.

6 months ago

Matt Capitani
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Iain has shared some good tips on here lately plus the threads that Jay setup was a great idea

Some tips definately but there is a fine line of sharing some tips and then sharing too much and taking business away from engineers out there willing to provide tuition etc, knowledge is gold in a producers mind and competitive enough as it is if they make a living from it lol but tips here and there is useful for whoever is looking to learn more including myself (edit: learning all the time) smile thumbsup

What a load of shit.

How is that a load of shit? im talking on behalf of people who engineer and provide tuition... a big eg is; you go throwing about an engineers skills online whats that going to do to his/your business???... obvios really laughing

Luckly I dont have that problem because I produce as a pastime for fun...

Post edited by owner 24/11/2011 10:32:14

6 months ago

Iain
2456 Posts

Manchester

Matt - I engineer and provide tuition... Personally I think that providing advice for people is a. Good for the scene, and b. Good promotion for me! You can read online how to build a wall, but realistically your gonna hire a builder to do the job becuase of their experience.

6 months ago

Matt Capitani
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Matt - I engineer and provide tuition... Personally I think that providing advice for people is a. Good for the scene, and b. Good promotion for me! You can read online how to build a wall, but realistically your gonna hire a builder to do the job becuase of their experience.

Good point

Problem is, the music industry has turned into a mass of people just wanting to learn it themselves which is all very great for them and all the best for them but it outclasses the engineers experience and skill which was once highly sought after for people who did not have access to thier own equipment, shoot me if im wrong but its far too easy for people to go yeah, I can do this myself and dont need to pay an engineer to teach me thumbsup

Post edited by owner 24/11/2011 12:48:59

6 months ago

Equinox

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It's more accessible for anyone with a computer now. From the start electronic dance music was pioneered by guys wanting to do it themselves by picking up the most affordable gear to get them going. That ethos to be self sufficient hasn't changed.

Absorb the basics and learn your own techniques

6 months ago

Matt Capitani
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It's more accessible for anyone with a computer now. From the start electronic dance music was pioneered by guys wanting to do it themselves by picking up the most affordable gear to get them going. That ethos to be self sufficient hasn't changed.

Absorb the basics and learn your own techniques

I found all the techniques ive built up over the years always helps massively in situations where im either stuck for an idea or new direction in the track that still ties in with the style ive got... thats good to keep in mind, experimenting is good but dont go overboard with it smile

6 months ago

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Iain has shared some good tips on here lately plus the threads that Jay setup was a great idea

Some tips definately but there is a fine line of sharing some tips and then sharing too much and taking business away from engineers out there willing to provide tuition etc, knowledge is gold in a producers mind and competitive enough as it is if they make a living from it lol but tips here and there is useful for whoever is looking to learn more including myself (edit: learning all the time) smile thumbsup

What a load of shit.

How is that a load of shit? im talking on behalf of people who engineer and provide tuition... a big eg is; you go throwing about an engineers skills online whats that going to do to his/your business???... obvios really laughing

Luckly I dont have that problem because I produce as a pastime for fun...

Let me put it into a different context for you to understand then.

It's like saying don't share recipes because you might put a cook out of a job, or sharing mechanical performance tips etc etc. It's stupid.
Sharing your tips/tricks on a message board isn't going to take business away from an engineer. Those people who use engineers for their tunes are going to use them anyway. Like Iain said, anything that is going to help raise the standard of music being released can only be a good thing. And if you only produce as past time fun, why do you care? I don't see any engineers who provide that service whinging? By your definition no-one should share what they know at all which would only make things worse, and TBH makes you sound like an ass. If you don't want to share any of your knowledge then that's fine, that is your decision. However don't have a sook about other people doing it if they want to.

Post edited by owner 11/25/2011 4:32:29 AM

6 months ago

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Matt - I engineer and provide tuition... Personally I think that providing advice for people is a. Good for the scene, and b. Good promotion for me! You can read online how to build a wall, but realistically your gonna hire a builder to do the job becuase of their experience.

Good point

Problem is, the music industry has turned into a mass of people just wanting to learn it themselves which is all very great for them and all the best for them but it outclasses the engineers experience and skill which was once highly sought after for people who did not have access to thier own equipment, shoot me if im wrong but its far too easy for people to go yeah, I can do this myself and dont need to pay an engineer to teach me thumbsup

So what?

6 months ago

Matt Capitani
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Iain has shared some good tips on here lately plus the threads that Jay setup was a great idea

Some tips definately but there is a fine line of sharing some tips and then sharing too much and taking business away from engineers out there willing to provide tuition etc, knowledge is gold in a producers mind and competitive enough as it is if they make a living from it lol but tips here and there is useful for whoever is looking to learn more including myself (edit: learning all the time) smile thumbsup

What a load of shit.

How is that a load of shit? im talking on behalf of people who engineer and provide tuition... a big eg is; you go throwing about an engineers skills online whats that going to do to his/your business???... obvios really laughing

Luckly I dont have that problem because I produce as a pastime for fun...

Let me put it into a different context for you to understand then.

It's like saying don't share recipes because you might put a cook out of a job, or sharing mechanical performance tips etc etc. It's stupid.
Sharing your tips/tricks on a message board isn't going to take business away from an engineer. Those people who use engineers for their tunes are going to use them anyway. Like Iain said, anything that is going to help raise the standard of music being released can only be a good thing. And if you only produce as past time fun, why do you care? I don't see any engineers who provide that service whinging? By your definition no-one should share what they know at all which would only make things worse, and TBH makes you sound like an ass. If you don't want to share any of your knowledge then that's fine, that is your decision. However don't have a sook about other people doing it if they want to.

Il put this in context seeing as you dont understand much about the digital music era... I didnt say dont share anything did I... stop making shit up just to add to your opinion... Right then: do you think its practical to share a university course module that you learnt on a music forum? or an engineers set of skills on a music forum?

Im all for helping producers out, given alot of advice on here and when I had people in to engineer and elsewhere, but would I submit everything I know from the past 7 years to someone whos been doing it 5 minutes??? no way! thats my knowledge, my shit... but like I said il still help them out, speak to any music producer/engineer they will give tips but never most of what they know thats what I meant...

Another thing, your just pissed because you cant have everything for free right now, petition for everyone to submit thier knowledge online? that isnt going to happen... you have to build your skills up, may take a matter of years, might take a year! nothing comes at the click of your fingers and at the end of it would you just throw most of it online for nothing??... ofcourse you wouldnt...

Post edited by owner 25/11/2011 18:35:49

6 months ago

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Iain has shared some good tips on here lately plus the threads that Jay setup was a great idea

Some tips definately but there is a fine line of sharing some tips and then sharing too much and taking business away from engineers out there willing to provide tuition etc, knowledge is gold in a producers mind and competitive enough as it is if they make a living from it lol but tips here and there is useful for whoever is looking to learn more including myself (edit: learning all the time) smile thumbsup

What a load of shit.

How is that a load of shit? im talking on behalf of people who engineer and provide tuition... a big eg is; you go throwing about an engineers skills online whats that going to do to his/your business???... obvios really laughing

Luckly I dont have that problem because I produce as a pastime for fun...

Let me put it into a different context for you to understand then.

It's like saying don't share recipes because you might put a cook out of a job, or sharing mechanical performance tips etc etc. It's stupid.
Sharing your tips/tricks on a message board isn't going to take business away from an engineer. Those people who use engineers for their tunes are going to use them anyway. Like Iain said, anything that is going to help raise the standard of music being released can only be a good thing. And if you only produce as past time fun, why do you care? I don't see any engineers who provide that service whinging? By your definition no-one should share what they know at all which would only make things worse, and TBH makes you sound like an ass. If you don't want to share any of your knowledge then that's fine, that is your decision. However don't have a sook about other people doing it if they want to.

Il put this in context seeing as you dont understand much about the digital music era... I didnt say dont share anything did I... stop making shit up just to add to your opinion... Right then: do you think its practical to share a university course module that you learnt on a music forum? or an engineers set of skills on a music forum?

Im all for helping producers out, given alot of advice on here and when I had people in to engineer and elsewhere, but would I submit everything I know from the past 7 years to someone whos been doing it 5 minutes??? no way! thats my knowledge, my shit... but like I said il still help them out, speak to any music producer/engineer they will give tips but never most of what they know thats what I meant...

Another thing, your just pissed because you cant have everything for free right now, petition for everyone to submit thier knowledge online? that isnt going to happen... you have to build your skills up, may take a matter of years, might take a year! nothing comes at the click of your fingers and at the end of it would you just throw most of it online for nothing??... ofcourse you wouldnt...

Maybe Athan is right about you....

I haven't made shit up, Your original statement was share but don't share to much when in fact Iain (who offers all the services you talk about) has posted quite the opposite. Some good friends of mine who are far more accomplished engineers then a lot of the people on here have absolutely no problem in sharing anything/everything they know in order to help someone write the best possible music. They also offer engineering services and it doesn't seem to affect their business at all. Like I've already posted that you seem to have ignored, people who want to use engineers still will regardless of what they read on a forum. In fact, 1 of the current "big name" hard trance artists even went as far to help myself with different eq/fx processing on my leads just to make my productions that bit better.

Also to answer your last statement, I would gladly put online everything I have learnt over the last 5 years if it would help someone else as much as it helped me. In fact I think you'll find I've even gone as far as to post presets for people to copy.

ps. Pissed I can't get everything for free? Petitions? All I said was people can share what they like, even if you have a problem with it being to much. Why should you care?

Post edited by owner 11/26/2011 8:18:11 AM

6 months ago

AMH

1136 Posts

Halifax

Hard Stuff

Ultimately, if someone spends long enough looking, they will find every tip and trick in the book, so I have no drama in making it painless for people by telling them the tips and tricks I am still learning from my searching...

Anyone in this for the music and scene regardless of making a few quid on the side should have this outllook.

If your in this for the money, then you need to rethink your business plan. Go produce electro or pop etc.

If engineers on the forums want to keep the scene alive they would spread everything they knew, otherwise it seems a little 'I had to pay so why should I share' attitude, which is fine as a business man, but not for the scene.

6 months ago

Matt Capitani
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Iain has shared some good tips on here lately plus the threads that Jay setup was a great idea

Some tips definately but there is a fine line of sharing some tips and then sharing too much and taking business away from engineers out there willing to provide tuition etc, knowledge is gold in a producers mind and competitive enough as it is if they make a living from it lol but tips here and there is useful for whoever is looking to learn more including myself (edit: learning all the time) smile thumbsup

What a load of shit.

How is that a load of shit? im talking on behalf of people who engineer and provide tuition... a big eg is; you go throwing about an engineers skills online whats that going to do to his/your business???... obvios really laughing

Luckly I dont have that problem because I produce as a pastime for fun...

Let me put it into a different context for you to understand then.

It's like saying don't share recipes because you might put a cook out of a job, or sharing mechanical performance tips etc etc. It's stupid.
Sharing your tips/tricks on a message board isn't going to take business away from an engineer. Those people who use engineers for their tunes are going to use them anyway. Like Iain said, anything that is going to help raise the standard of music being released can only be a good thing. And if you only produce as past time fun, why do you care? I don't see any engineers who provide that service whinging? By your definition no-one should share what they know at all which would only make things worse, and TBH makes you sound like an ass. If you don't want to share any of your knowledge then that's fine, that is your decision. However don't have a sook about other people doing it if they want to.

Il put this in context seeing as you dont understand much about the digital music era... I didnt say dont share anything did I... stop making shit up just to add to your opinion... Right then: do you think its practical to share a university course module that you learnt on a music forum? or an engineers set of skills on a music forum?

Im all for helping producers out, given alot of advice on here and when I had people in to engineer and elsewhere, but would I submit everything I know from the past 7 years to someone whos been doing it 5 minutes??? no way! thats my knowledge, my shit... but like I said il still help them out, speak to any music producer/engineer they will give tips but never most of what they know thats what I meant...

Another thing, your just pissed because you cant have everything for free right now, petition for everyone to submit thier knowledge online? that isnt going to happen... you have to build your skills up, may take a matter of years, might take a year! nothing comes at the click of your fingers and at the end of it would you just throw most of it online for nothing??... ofcourse you wouldnt...

Maybe Athan is right about you....

I haven't made shit up, Your original statement was share but don't share to much when in fact Iain (who offers all the services you talk about) has posted quite the opposite. Some good friends of mine who are far more accomplished engineers then a lot of the people on here have absolutely no problem in sharing anything/everything they know in order to help someone write the best possible music. They also offer engineering services and it doesn't seem to affect their business at all. Like I've already posted that you seem to have ignored, people who want to use engineers still will regardless of what they read on a forum. In fact, 1 of the current "big name" hard trance artists even went as far to help myself with different eq/fx processing on my leads just to make my productions that bit better.

Also to answer your last statement, I would gladly put online everything I have learnt over the last 5 years if it would help someone else as much as it helped me. In fact I think you'll find I've even gone as far as to post presets for people to copy.

ps. Pissed I can't get everything for free? Petitions? All I said was people can share what they like, even if you have a problem with it being to much. Why should you care?

Right about me?? you dont know shit about me pal and the amount of people ive helped and supported in this scene... your the most careless person in the music industry and naive to say the least.... good luck for the future because you will need plenty of it laughing

... having opinions and such on a public forum but man that is rediculous...

Post edited by owner 26/11/2011 11:03:59

6 months ago

Matt Capitani
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Ultimately, if someone spends long enough looking, they will find every tip and trick in the book, so I have no drama in making it painless for people by telling them the tips and tricks I am still learning from my searching...

Anyone in this for the music and scene regardless of making a few quid on the side should have this outllook.

If your in this for the money, then you need to rethink your business plan. Go produce electro or pop etc.

If engineers on the forums want to keep the scene alive they would spread everything they knew, otherwise it seems a little 'I had to pay so why should I share' attitude, which is fine as a business man, but not for the scene.

Oh comon guys, were totally missing my point here, I didnt say dont share anything that is pure selfish but sharing everything just isnt practical, im very sure im not the only person in thinking this... I stick by the saying 'give someone a little and they will respect it, give someone too much and they want more and more'

Lets put this to the test then:

Why dont you guys get Owens, Dom, Stevens, Nardi, Frank Farrel, Tinrib to submit everything they know on here... Im being abit of a bastard now but we`ll see whos right lads wink

6 months ago

AMH

1136 Posts

Halifax

Hard Stuff

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Ultimately, if someone spends long enough looking, they will find every tip and trick in the book, so I have no drama in making it painless for people by telling them the tips and tricks I am still learning from my searching...

Anyone in this for the music and scene regardless of making a few quid on the side should have this outllook.

If your in this for the money, then you need to rethink your business plan. Go produce electro or pop etc.

If engineers on the forums want to keep the scene alive they would spread everything they knew, otherwise it seems a little 'I had to pay so why should I share' attitude, which is fine as a business man, but not for the scene.

Oh comon guys, were totally missing my point here, I didnt say dont share anything that is pure selfish but sharing everything just isnt practical, im very sure im not the only person in thinking this... I stick by the saying 'give someone a little and they will respect it, give someone too much and they want more and more'

Lets put this to the test then:

Why dont you guys get Owens, Dom, Stevens, Nardi, Frank Farrel, Tinrib to submit everything they know on here... Im being abit of a bastard now but we`ll see whos right lads wink

Touche

6 months ago

Matt Capitani
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Ultimately, if someone spends long enough looking, they will find every tip and trick in the book, so I have no drama in making it painless for people by telling them the tips and tricks I am still learning from my searching...

Anyone in this for the music and scene regardless of making a few quid on the side should have this outllook.

If your in this for the money, then you need to rethink your business plan. Go produce electro or pop etc.

If engineers on the forums want to keep the scene alive they would spread everything they knew, otherwise it seems a little 'I had to pay so why should I share' attitude, which is fine as a business man, but not for the scene.

Oh comon guys, were totally missing my point here, I didnt say dont share anything that is pure selfish but sharing everything just isnt practical, im very sure im not the only person in thinking this... I stick by the saying 'give someone a little and they will respect it, give someone too much and they want more and more'

Lets put this to the test then:

Why dont you guys get Owens, Dom, Stevens, Nardi, Frank Farrel, Tinrib to submit everything they know on here... Im being abit of a bastard now but we`ll see whos right lads wink

Touche

If Aaron seems to think thats the best solution then so be it but when he produces more and more he will quickley realise that if he wants to carve his own sound with the techniques hes built up over the years that signify his tracks, his method to the madness then he`ll keep his most valuable techniques to himself, sharing varios other helpfull tricks to producers here and there... No one gives a shit about everything he will give them carelessly, they will grab it for themselves run off, use it and abuse it.. dog eat dog style

6 months ago

See that's the difference between us then isn't it. You want to hold your cards to your chest but I am willing to share everything I know to help people. I'm not the greatest producer going, but I have learnt enough over the years to engineer my own tunes completely. I would never have gotten to that stage without all the help I have received from mates and forums so I am more than willIng to share. Iain posted an awesome tip about sidechaining reverb the other day completely off the cuff and was more than happy to answer questions. That is what it should be all about. Like AMH has said, if you're in it for the money then you're in the wrong scene. Oh and before you jump to conclusions again, I'm not saying people HAVE TO SHARE anything, and to answer your question about Dom etc, it would be nice seeing as though in Oz we don't have access to guys like them. But what would I know.

6 months ago

Oh and careless and naive huh? Maybe just willing to share because I like to help others? And I don't need luck for the future mate, I've already achieved more than I ever expected to do and any releases or remixes i am asked for now are just a bonus and a compliment to the skills I worked hard to get (which I am more than happy to share btw)

6 months ago

Matt Capitani
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See that's the difference between us then isn't it. You want to hold your cards to your chest but I am willing to share everything I know to help people. I'm not the greatest producer going, but I have learnt enough over the years to engineer my own tunes completely. I would never have gotten to that stage without all the help I have received from mates and forums so I am more than willIng to share. Iain posted an awesome tip about sidechaining reverb the other day completely off the cuff and was more than happy to answer questions. That is what it should be all about. Like AMH has said, if you're in it for the money then you're in the wrong scene. Oh and before you jump to conclusions again, I'm not saying people HAVE TO SHARE anything, and to answer your question about Dom etc, it would be nice seeing as though in Oz we don't have access to guys like them. But what would I know.

There will always be a conflict of different opinions on forums, im not saying im right but that is just my preference and its a good thing that you want to share stuff and help other people out, definately, but personally I just think it all depends who you help out, whether you know them and not just everyone you dont know... I think it would be goldust if engineers did share alot of thier knowledge on here and im not trying to argue against that at all but I wouldnt do it myself thats all

There has been a few from oz on here that have mentioned they would love the chance to have access to engineers over there but imo its not essential that you should have to go in with such engineers to improve imo, it helps yeah but its achievable without and probably more of a better sense of achievment self taught with some tutorials thumbsup

6 months ago

Matt Capitani
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Oh and careless and naive huh? Maybe just willing to share because I like to help others? And I don't need luck for the future mate, I've already achieved more than I ever expected to do and any releases or remixes i am asked for now are just a bonus and a compliment to the skills I worked hard to get (which I am more than happy to share btw)

Im not saying good luck towards your productions, I havent heard them, I meant good luck for giving everything out

Great stuff anyway man and sounds like your moving forward with it thumbsup

6 months ago

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Oh and careless and naive huh? Maybe just willing to share because I like to help others? And I don't need luck for the future mate, I've already achieved more than I ever expected to do and any releases or remixes i am asked for now are just a bonus and a compliment to the skills I worked hard to get (which I am more than happy to share btw)

Im not saying good luck towards your productions, I havent heard them, I meant good luck for giving everything out

Great stuff anyway man and sounds like your moving forward with it thumbsup

Sorry my mistake.

Cheers.

6 months ago

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If giving tutorials on forums is undermining the profession of sound engineer, then it isnt much of a profession is it? I mean, if any old joe can come along, read BT & suddenly not need your services Matt, then your services arent exactly good enough to charge for! laughing

(this isnt a personal attack on you Matt, more an observation on your comment)

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6 months ago

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Ok that sounds bad - what I meant was I'm sure the sum of your experience & knowledge cant be put into a few posts on a forum, so dont worry about sharing whatever thumbsup

6 months ago

Matt Capitani
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If giving tutorials on forums is undermining the profession of sound engineer, then it isnt much of a profession is it? I mean, if any old joe can come along, read BT & suddenly not need your services Matt, then your services arent exactly good enough to charge for! laughing

(this isnt a personal attack on you Matt, more an observation on your comment)

I see your point darklight, tbh its just a general rule ive carried with me for a good few years as I was learning techniques... imo an engineers true proffesion lies in mixing really that is a balance of skill and a dark art and a half that takes years to master thumbsup

6 months ago

Pero
262 Posts

People are afraid of sharing their tips/tricks, but it's not easy putting these into practice, especially if someone is new to production.

I would always try and help someone with anything they ask as this scene has already seen its arse and the more you try and keep everything to yourself, the more the scene will suffer.

6 months ago

Dramatik
3889 Posts

Adelaide

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Better to share knowledge - it can only help the scene

spot on

6 months ago

WONGA!

23604 Posts

I think it's part of your responsibility as a professional to pass on your knowledge to anyone who's willing to learn. I've got 14 years of design experience and will go out of my way to teach people how to design, how to use the software, pass on any tips and tricks that I have. It has never crossed my mind to not tell someone something because it might make them a bit better.

You'd have to be a monumental prick to say 'I won't tell you this, because it's my secret technique' - that's for Coca Cola and KFC, not for people like us.

Jay is a good example of this, I think over the years he has helped out countless people and I'm pretty sure he didn't hold back.

Ever read a tutorial on the net? You're the beneficiary of someone giving up their time, to educate thousands of people. For free.

I'd say this is the best thing about the internet, that people are so willing to share their knowledge with the world, without asking for anything in return (apart from some advertising dollars haha). I've learnt so much from reading articles, following tutorials etc etc. I wouldn't be the designer I am today without that, and it is my responsibility to do the same to those who want or need it.

6 months ago

4D Meow

1463 Posts

You are not giving them production-advice, you are giving them "Time". The time that it took you to learn that technique, you can save someone else from wasting that precious time by explaining it to them in your own way. This is why things progress when more minds are collected or more knowledge is accumulated.

Also, I've never heard of a producer failing because his production techniques were leaked.

6 months ago

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Use more cowbell thumbsup

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farking lols everytime i see your sig btw Adam yawn

6 months ago

Dave Owens
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Almost everything I know I got from asking other people "How did you do that?"

I'm always happy to help when people ask me, pay it forward and the like. smile

6 months ago

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farking lols everytime i see your sig btw Adam yawn

Its fucking legendary isnt it laughing

Got to be one of the funniest things ive ever seen on here laughing

6 months ago

Hard stomping boshing twisted grooves

Andy Graves
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Reading

Matt strikes again laughing

(only joking dude, it's funny!) laughing

6 months ago

Matt Capitani
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4732 Posts

In reply to
Use more cowbell thumbsup

That will be £6235 please thumbsup

I have to consult my solicitor before I draw up the contract for the cowbell recording Ad

You dont even get access to the studios whilst I record it... fucking rip off! thumbsup

6 months ago

Looks like you been shut down Matt laughing

6 months ago

Matt Capitani
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Cant beat a good row on bt Andy, its a good workout thumbsup

Athan I got shut down because I refused to work with Moby and Underworld for selective clientel project reasons, I had to say to my fellow studio colleagues and receptionist "you are no longer my fellow djaays!"... thumbsup

6 months ago

laughing Yeah well I guess you look at it from the point of view, 'what could they possibly teach me, Matt Capitani?'

And you wouldn't wanna share all your wealth of knowledge with those guys so yeah it's understandable a dude in your position would turn them down.

6 months ago

Matt Capitani
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laughing Yeah well I guess you look at it from the point of view, 'what could they possibly teach me, Matt Capitani?'

And you wouldn't wanna share all your wealth of knowledge with those guys so yeah it's understandable a dude in your position would turn them down.

This is the thing Athan im far too grandiose for this shit.. cant handle all the cameras, the lights man the lights...

been given the opportunity to be shot into space to see the moon in a personalised space hub... just dont know about it man because its still not fucking good enough thumbsdown

Post edited by owner 28/11/2011 21:47:13

6 months ago

In reply to
Almost everything I know I got from asking other people "How did you do that?"

I'm always happy to help when people ask me, pay it forward and the like. smile

Here you go then Matt, not trying to be cheeky but remember your earlier post about trying to ask Dave Owens to share things?

6 months ago

Hoover slut
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Southend

Nasty As Fuck

In reply to

Cant beat a good row on bt Andy, its a good workout thumbsup

Athan I got shut down because I refused to work with Moby and Underworld for selective clientel project reasons, I had to say to my fellow studio colleagues and receptionist "you are no longer my fellow djaays!"... thumbsup

6 months ago

Dolewaller
7718 Posts

Leeds

Your taxes, my booze.

In reply to

Ultimately, if someone spends long enough looking, they will find every tip and trick in the book, so I have no drama in making it painless for people by telling them the tips and tricks I am still learning from my searching...

Anyone in this for the music and scene regardless of making a few quid on the side should have this outllook.

If your in this for the money, then you need to rethink your business plan. Go produce electro or pop etc.

If engineers on the forums want to keep the scene alive they would spread everything they knew, otherwise it seems a little 'I had to pay so why should I share' attitude, which is fine as a business man, but not for the scene.

Oh comon guys, were totally missing my point here, I didnt say dont share anything that is pure selfish but sharing everything just isnt practical, im very sure im not the only person in thinking this... I stick by the saying 'give someone a little and they will respect it, give someone too much and they want more and more'

Lets put this to the test then:

Why dont you guys get Owens, Dom, Stevens, Nardi, Frank Farrel, Tinrib to submit everything they know on here... Im being abit of a bastard now but we`ll see whos right lads wink

Touche

If Aaron seems to think thats the best solution then so be it but when he produces more and more he will quickley realise that if he wants to carve his own sound with the techniques hes built up over the years that signify his tracks, his method to the madness then he`ll keep his most valuable techniques to himself, sharing varios other helpfull tricks to producers here and there... No one gives a shit about everything he will give them carelessly, they will grab it for themselves run off, use it and abuse it.. dog eat dog style

I give a shit, without him I would have never even of stated producing and for that I have respect for the bloke.

6 months ago

System Alert
5465 Posts

Coventry

Hardhouse

All i can offer is if you use Reason 4.0,use combo patches.They may look like they do sod all,but if you play with them enough,they can shape your sound amazingly i think.I am only just touching the surface with them i think,but finding them a lot more fun that i use to.One on its own will do sod all most of the time,but mash it together with 2 or 3 + screams,phazers and you can create some ok stuff.

I tend to use a basic template of a Thor now,create my own,(not presets.There ok some of them,but i find them limited tbh), and add my fx until i feel its music.
Thats what i'm doing now thumbsup

Post edited by owner 11/29/2011 12:08:05 PM

6 months ago

Equinox

15497 Posts

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laughing

5 months ago

chunky hardhouse/drk psy/hard funk

alan byrne
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7 Posts

dublin

spot on matt spot on,producers/engineers never stop learning,so its not the case were u reach a certain level
it never stops,and matts rite, ders only so much that you can teach yourself but i recommend doin a course
or tuition of some sort,den the willing to learn and your love for muzik will take you the rest of the way uzi

5 months ago

deanossa
90 Posts

what a wicked and interesting thread. i have been reading through and i must say how refreshing it is to see some proper seasoned pro's offer free advice, help and assistance.

to be honest, i couldnt agree more that currently whatever can be done to improve the scene should be done to improve the scene.

if nobody helps one another, they could end up having no hard house scene left at all for people to then sit on useless knowledge. yet if some new blood comes through and producers quality hard house with a difference and an edge, surely this will improve things for everybody whilst gaining more popularity for the genre.

personally, i would love to know more as i know nothing about production. i struggle to even understand the basics.

i feel all i need is to be told bits or nuggets of info to help me pass my obstacles and allow me to work at things that otherwise i wouldnt be able to do. but if somebody,(yet in my position i dont even know who that somebody is?) or if i could go somewhere to get that info or help just to provide me with that glimmer of light, i could then progress further, to the next sticking point of course but its progression.

i saw this forum and as you can see, by my post count that i am new. i was sooo pleased when i saw all the members here and some top people that i really look up to and of names that have inspired me. yet i have been scared to ask for any help because i am aware of some of the responses i may get.

for instance, i also would like to improve my dj'ing, being away from the scene for a good few years i need to get myself back up to speed. i posted a mix in here and the first comment i got was very negative, yet no advice to help me improve.

i think its amazing that some of you guys want to share the love. maximum respect. now how can someone like me begin to start tapping into that knowledge that you guys are happy to share?

would it be a valid idea to create a thread - 'learning production techniques' or similar where people similar to myself can look at helping each other and on the occasions where necessary you guys already in the know could chip in with nuggets of info to help us overcome issues?

i dont want to be a leecher, or to be spoon-fed. i would just like to be put on the right track.

regards,

Dean

5 months ago

deanossa
90 Posts

massive thank you to System Alert/Stuart - your pm is greatly appreciated!

5 months ago