can someone explain to me

 
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4 months ago
ChrisB
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how the house of lords thing works, im reading about the 26000 a year cap (which i agree with) and its seems its been defeated but it can be over turned so whats the point
4 months ago
DAVER
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Sorry I have no idea how anything in politics works .
4 months ago
Stu
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United KingdomLeeds
Just a remnant from the days when the King / Queen still had power.

The House of Commons (elected politicians) put forward a bill (draft law) which then gets voted on, for or against.

If it gets enough votes then its sent to the House of Lords (unelected 'peers', basically upper-class rich families, although 'commoners' can become lords, usually ex-politicians) and they vote on it again.

Basically if the Lords voted against it it got sent back down to the House of Commons to be changed / re-debated, however the last Labour government changed the law so if it gets sent back down to the House of Commons twice then they can overrule the House of Lords and bring it into law anyway, basically making the House of Lords redundant.
4 months ago
AMH
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how the house of lords thing works, im reading about the 26000 a year cap (which i agree with) and its seems its been defeated but it can be over turned so whats the point


Yeah it doesn't need explaining, your right....

 

House of commons vote something in andhouse of lords can overwrite it, house of lords vote something in and the royal family can overwrite it with request from the PM's or current power.... even though the Queen can dismiss parlament any way, the whole system is bollox, just a scam to make the public actually believe their say counts.... when parlament mug us off, and big banks mug parlament off.

 

Banks > Big wig families > Corp. >  Government > Police > Armed Forces > Tax slaves.... or something like that

4 months ago
Pat Glenny
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Really, who cares? I don't give a shit what they do. I go to work get paid and live my life. I aint giving 1 minute of my time to them wankers!
4 months ago
NoMiS ChaV
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Sorry I have no idea how anything in politics works . May I sum it up? Ok. Poli = more than one. Tics = FUCKING PARASITES. Together = MANY FUCKING PARASITIC SCUMBAGS MILKING THE NATION FOR EVERY LAST DROP. You now have a basis to succinctly reply to thread, as I have done. Hope your well chap ; ]
4 months ago
ChrisB
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normally i dont but i think this certain bill is a step in the right direction to stop people taking the piss, u may not see how many do but i worked on council estates and many really do take the piss
4 months ago
Timmeh
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I think 26k is taking the piss a bit still
4 months ago
ChrisB
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yep but most of it is housing so they wont lose out if they move house, nobody want scrubbers on there nice estates
4 months ago
4D Meow
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I think 26k is taking the piss a bit still

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4 months ago
Dr Walter Bishop
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I think 26k is taking the piss a bit still

ffs i dont earn anywhere near that amount! Wankers! How the fuck do they get that much being on the dole? eeek
4 months ago
Dr Walter Bishop
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10k more then me for doing fuck all, i'm fucking pissed off to hell now
4 months ago
ChrisB
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PeruIquitos Amazonia
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I think 26k is taking the piss a bit still

ffs i dont earn anywhere near that amount! Wankers! How the fuck do they get that much being on the dole? eeek
like i said most of it is housing benefit, so all these people up in arms just need to move out of the posh ars (Which they shouldnt be able to live in anyway) and move to more affordable housing like the rest of us
4 months ago
Graham House
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I think 26k is taking the piss a bit still

ffs i dont earn anywhere near that amount! Wankers! How the fuck do they get that much being on the dole? eeek
like i said most of it is housing benefit, so all these people up in arms just need to move out of the posh ars (Which they shouldnt be able to live in anyway) and move to more affordable housing like the rest of us
some of them just take the piss.A 4 person family living in a detached 5 bedroom house that costs 5000 a month to rent is a joke
4 months ago
Dolewaller
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10k more then me for doing fuck all, i'm fucking pissed off to hell now

 Thats England in a nutshell mate.
4 months ago
Lee S.
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I get 18k working full time 40 hours a week, this is considered a good wage for Lincolnshire, and I have to pay my own rent and coucil tax, takes the piss
4 months ago
Dr Walter Bishop
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10k more then me for doing fuck all, i'm fucking pissed off to hell now

 Thats England in a nutshell mate.

I didn't even realise that the UK was like that, I know there's tons of bums on the dole who dont want to get off it but when i was on the dole for a few month back in 1995 i was really struggling to survive, I got nowhere near that amount, 26k fucking hell, People have no shame, I was eating 1 meal a day when i was on jobseekers and that was when things were good! Jeez....2far
4 months ago
13th Duke of Wybourne
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I think 26k is taking the piss a bit still

ffs i dont earn anywhere near that amount! Wankers! How the fuck do they get that much being on the dole? eeek

Don't forget the 26k is take home too, so it relates more to a £35-40k salary.
4 months ago
Dr Walter Bishop
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United StatesBoston, Massachusetts
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I think 26k is taking the piss a bit still

ffs i dont earn anywhere near that amount! Wankers! How the fuck do they get that much being on the dole? eeek

Don't forget the 26k is take home too, so it relates more to a £35-40k salary.
ffs haha now you're rubbing it in, I was thinking it was before tax angrylaughing
4 months ago
Dolewaller
7718 Posts
United KingdomLeeds
Music Style Your taxes, my booze.
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10k more then me for doing fuck all, i'm fucking pissed off to hell now

 Thats England in a nutshell mate.

I didn't even realise that the UK was like that, I know there's tons of bums on the dole who dont want to get off it but when i was on the dole for a few month back in 1995 i was really struggling to survive, I got nowhere near that amount, 26k fucking hell, People have no shame, I was eating 1 meal a day when i was on jobseekers and that was when things were good! Jeez....2far

England looks after its people, there is nobody starving on the streets here like in America, our government will provide you with everything you need, and then some. But unfortunately this system breeds a plethora of lazy, incompetent fucks who manipulate, take advantage of, and abuse the very system that has been utilised for the genuine poor who simply cannot find work. And guess who has to suffer as a consequence? That's right, the people that do actually fucking work. 
4 months ago
Dr Walter Bishop
farside Pic22247 Posts
United StatesBoston, Massachusetts
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10k more then me for doing fuck all, i'm fucking pissed off to hell now

 Thats England in a nutshell mate.

I didn't even realise that the UK was like that, I know there's tons of bums on the dole who dont want to get off it but when i was on the dole for a few month back in 1995 i was really struggling to survive, I got nowhere near that amount, 26k fucking hell, People have no shame, I was eating 1 meal a day when i was on jobseekers and that was when things were good! Jeez....2far

England looks after its people, there is nobody starving on the streets here like in America, our government will provide you with everything you need, and then some. But unfortunately this system breeds a plethora of lazy, incompetent fucks who manipulate, take advantage of, and abuse the very system that has been utilised for the genuine poor who simply cannot find work. And guess who has to suffer as a consequence? That's right, the people that do actually fucking work. 

I've lived in the UK all my life laughing
4 months ago
Lee S.
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EnglandLincoln Acid City
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I was watching that Coppers programme on ITV the other night to see some of the scum that sit at home spending our tax money, its enought to make you sick
4 months ago
Dolewaller
7718 Posts
United KingdomLeeds
Music Style Your taxes, my booze.
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In reply to
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In reply to
10k more then me for doing fuck all, i'm fucking pissed off to hell now

 Thats England in a nutshell mate.

I didn't even realise that the UK was like that, I know there's tons of bums on the dole who dont want to get off it but when i was on the dole for a few month back in 1995 i was really struggling to survive, I got nowhere near that amount, 26k fucking hell, People have no shame, I was eating 1 meal a day when i was on jobseekers and that was when things were good! Jeez....2far

England looks after its people, there is nobody starving on the streets here like in America, our government will provide you with everything you need, and then some. But unfortunately this system breeds a plethora of lazy, incompetent fucks who manipulate, take advantage of, and abuse the very system that has been utilised for the genuine poor who simply cannot find work. And guess who has to suffer as a consequence? That's right, the people that do actually fucking work. 

I've lived in the UK all my life laughing

I keep thinking you are Rob laughing
4 months ago
Dicky
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EnglandBedworth
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hopefully it gets passed through.thumbsup
4 months ago
NoMiS ChaV
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Irelandbruv
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It's all bollocks, we live in a world of abundance yet these cunts decide who gets what. While you all flap about over a few thousand quid they make millions and far more than they can ever use. Wise up ffs, see through it. I know I'm gonna get it for saying that but fuck it eh. : ]

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