Cubase Users - You Rock!

You do all know that Logic is the Daddy tho right?? ha ha ha ;-)

The one thing that bugged me with VST & SX was the way you had to load the VST's into a module & then assign a track to that plugin. If you wanted to try a different synth on the same channel to see how it sounded, it cleared the channel. Bit shit really I always thought. In Logic you can drag synths & effects around different channels without screwing things up.

SX & Logic are level pegging anyway & what you lose on one you can gain with the abundance of plugins available anyway.

Nah, Cubase is the Daddy!! haha!

I have used both but since the layout is different in logic i just couldnt be arsed to move over to it..........It was down to some bugs i had in cubase that made me want to move over but chickened out

and ye, they both have their good and bad points.....but to be honest, I dont delve into the inerworkings of either so some simple sequencer would do me really after the different ones ive tried in the past!!

It will be another couple of years before i really get my teeth into the audio side of sequencers or DAWs since i have had my head in the past with synths and MIDI for so long!

got to admit, so far, i hate the way you have to watch the CPU meter now! I didnt have this problem when using about 16 to 20 synths in one go!

BUT, i do like the total control you have with VSTi's!!

And software samplers make an AKAI S3200XL look like a Casio SK1!!

at the moment im still learning and fiddling with VSTi's....I know some of you have been using them for years now! So i WILL be asking questions!

oh, and does a powercore help all VST plugins or just the ones bought for it?

Cheers!

Logic is very similar to VST 5 really. I moved onto SX for about 1 month while I had some remixes to do before I was away on my hols, so had to cut my teeth pretty damn quick. When I came back I got Logic & instantly prefered it, very natural transition to be honest. I can't get my head into thinking the Cubase way now lol.

Set up your key commands to what you're used to in VST5 & that will save you no end of trouble. I bought a qwerty keyboard which has all the keys labelled for use with Logic which helped me through early on. Automation is really good also, without getting in a mess. I'd give it a go, I think you'd be more at home than with SX.

The Powercore only runs VST's written specifically for it.

 

If you have a channel on cubase and wanna test VST instuments with 1 effect you only need to use the GROUP mode at the bottom . open the effect in Group - tell the channel which group the effect is in and any you go . So simple .  Every synth can use the 1 effect even if you swap synths .

As for Logic . I enjoy to open a programme to make music without making an enviroment . what is that all about !!!! . a loat of waisted time  if you ask me . Cubase wins hands down .

Steve,
nah you've misunderstood what I meant. Basically if you have an instrument that has insert effects on it's channel & then you think that you'd like to try another synth in it's place, it wipes those plugins off the channel when you remove the assigned synth. Unless there is another way of disabling it that I don't know about. The bit you're on about is Buss channels where you have your effects routed via Aux's.

The Environment in Logic doesn't have to be difficult. Just set it up once...24 Instrument channels, 48 Audio, 16 Aux, 16 Buss etc then save it. It's a very clever addition that makes the program pretty much open to rebuilding to suit your exact requirements. For example I've got a screenset that I've created that has all the Faders, Eq's, FX, Mutes, Solos, Master volume etc that comes up on Logic to control my outboard digital desk.

I'm not defending Logic at all, it's what suits you at the end of the day.

I often wondered if i should have moved over to logic at one point as i did like some of the nifty tricks and layouts as there was a period when a lot of Cubase users moved over to it.

But, glad i stayed since Apple purchased it...and i dont have an apple anymore!

I have a legit version of cubase 5.1 (dongle etc..) and thought about SX but the cracked version 1 i had crashed....and was a lot different in layout for me to switch straight away. I now have a cracked Version 2 SX to try but dont know how this will trial for a long period of time (i will buy it if it changes my mind)....I also have V3 SX cracked but this isnt stable enough.

I use key combinations to get to my pages and found SX to be annoying cuz of the different key combinations...but still may try and switch?

Well for me personally, I liked the fact that Logic looked & felt very similar to VST5 in operation. SX gets a little unruly/messy with the way it handles automation & the screen soon becomes very cluttered as you work.

You should have upgraded to SX a while ago if you are a registered user. Unfortunately they've closed the upgrade path from VST 5 to SX now. Bit shit really of them to have done that I think. So you'd have to pay for the whole thing again...so much for trying to look after your customers.

Not sure about the Apple buyout either tho..seems they're craftily moving soley to a software only approach. They've stopped manufacturing their Unitor range of midi boxes, that's why they're flying around for so cheap these days.

Well, i suppose, as long as old VST does what i want it to then i will stick with it. I have had a few crashes but this is prob down to plugins and shit coding.

Its only recently that i have pushed the PC to the limit....so i think its sit and wait till i can get a more powerful one with more memory

I need to get the system sorted since a collab with Anne Savage might be in the pipeline together with a track im doing with Jimpy (breaks). So, time to pull my finger out!!

Yeah I think that's a good standpoint mate, I made the same decision not so long ago. I got sick of the constant upgrade with sequencers & to be fair there's so much that things like VST5 can do anyway. On a high spec'd PC I'm sure it will run very smooth compared to SX.

If it ain't broke why fix t?

I use Stienburg's Nuendo3 in the studio at work and Cubase SX3 for music (most of the time). both are basically the same.

Well worth upgrading for the very handy Timewarp tool. Getting vocals in time is a piece of cake.

mmm, the vocal time warp thing sounds good! I need that now!

I use Acid Pro for getting Drumloops etc.. in time then export to Wav for import to Cubase. Would be great if i can do it on the fly in Cubase too!

Is it just in SX3 or is it part of SX2 as well?

Cheers!

Si.

Mate import an audio file > select it using the pointer>rightclick >process>timestretch =)

Ah, i c...its the old timebandit!

I thought it was something new!

I remember Time Bandit when i had to get it as a seperate application!

It is totally different.

The Timestretch tool has been around for ages, but  the TimeWarp tool is new with version 3 of SX & nuendo.

You are able to see the waveform of say a vocal phrase. And if certain words or parts of the phrase/vocal line aren't in time you can drag the word to where you want it, without having to cut the phrase up into loads of little bits and shift the parts around.

Nice time for the upgrade maybe.... -

 

I need to get hold of a cracked version to try it first!

Then i will decide if it is for me after ive used it for a while.......done a couple of tracks etc! I hate demo versions....but i DO buy software if i use it commercially

BUT fuk em if the customer back-up is shite, or the software is bugged to hell (sometimesthe cracked is better cuz the coders correct the bugs due to being pissed off too!)

Has anyone got a stable cracked version for me to try?