Your thoughts??

very true... moaning will get people nowhere tho, people expect things to just be handed to them. If u aint happy with the music then do something about it. start up ur own night and play what u want.. or start producing yourself, thats exactly what i've done anyway.

strewth, hey greame,i reckon you could run for Prime minister with your breakdown to the shortfalls,hey dude you could make right the Uk then the world, move over Tony Blair

start a club mate,would be faaaantastic, the 50-100 people is a already great fan base to build on

hey frank,loving The Graduate hard house rules,love it or leave it

I think what Pendulum have done for drum n bass is maybe what hardhouse needs.

Someone who can make it more accessible to people. Bring in other commerical elements without the cheese factor.

Thing I've noticed though, is that genres like dnb & breaks generally go into a breakdown at the start of the track. This gives them full creative freedom with how the tune will progress from that point. The only problem with hardhouse dj's is that the majority of them like mixing into a new bassline, hence why most tunes are made like that.

Maybe having a tune that has a bassline drop in for a couple of 64's, then into a breakdown, then out with something different would work?? Dunno 

I think it's a bit rich coming from DJs (in general) about tune structure not being interesting. Tunes are structered as they are at the start and finish to suit DJs. The more difficult something is to mix the more difficult it is to sell because the less talented DJs simply won't play it (I'm talking hard house here).

I wondered whether producers, in aiming to make a track DJ friendly, were maybe limiting their own ideas and creativity.

 Perhaps it would be good for producers to concentrate on making good tunes and let the DJs worry about how they'll go about mixing the tunes in (hmm.....gonna be difficult if you do both)  that way, keeps DJs motivated, they'll keep on getting better and better and we get a whole new range of sounds.... Best of both worlds.   

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Will any dance labels be joining or are they all gonna stick to trying to get £1.50 a track with another provider for there music ????

hey G i thought your point was feeble aswell sport, hardcore at 170 bpms is shitloads more  daunting for newbies then evil hard hard house at 150 max

then again mate its all opinions, your never right or never wrong,no offence

Never seen this thread before..

And there was me thinkin hardhouse only got shit recently

my 2p's worth:

The tracks take too long to come out; once you've heard them on a few main stream DJ Mixes or heard them cained in the clubs they kind of loose thier appeal, for me.

Tracks should be released to everyone at the same time not just given out to DJs then 2-3 months later released to everyone else.  I understand the time it takes for vinyl to be mastered/pressed, but now mp3 downloads are more accessible .. why the wait?

*edit* just released Adam's original post was in 2005! .. just goes to show i still feel the same LOL

Yes it does,  you're like a broken record!