Bongo
1646 Posts
Warrnambool
Mixed BagOk, after all my slating of tunes it's time for everyone to get some payback.
Any feedback is appreciated. Good and cuntstructive.
Finally got back in to the studio last week with Banga to finish this tune off seeing I wasn't happy with it the first time. Fattened the bassline, got a new vocal in the breakdown, ditched the trancey riff, ditched the first breakdown and mixed the acid up.
http://www.angelfire.com/electronic2/bongo/Bongo_banga_narcoticgen.mp3
128 kbps mp3 sample (1.7mb)
If the hotlink doesn't work, copy and paste it in a new window.
Cheers guys, be sending this off next week to some labels and if it doesn't get signed I'll end up releasing it myself.
Post edited by owner 9/9/2005 8:34:37 AM Bongo
1646 Posts
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Mixed BagCheers Dan.
Looks like I've offended too many peeps on here to get much feedback.
Post edited by owner 9/9/2005 10:19:56 AM Daz
26810 Posts
cant download shit onto my comp as its fooked mate but will deffo have a good listen to it over the wknd!!
Marc Johnson
2101 Posts
London
energetic musicIn reply to
Cheers Dan.

Looks like I've offended too many peeps on here to get much feedback.
ill gladly give you some feedback Bongo
Been looking forward to this day for a long long time, putting aside my expectations from a tune from you(i mean for someone so vocal about how crap things are and where they should go then i was expecting mind blowingness) with a open mind i listened to your track and my honest , hand on heart feedback is .... it is dull, goes no where, completelly fizzles out after the break,yeah has a funky bass line, cool thats 1 element,if this got played in a club i reckon the crowd would be pretty uninspired or excited by it
sorry, harsh but fair, you kinda left yourself open for it really, i mean for someone who continually mocks others hard work and contribution as shit just because"you" happen to not like it i was expecting far far far more but instead you confirmed what i knew anyway that sitting in the back seat is so easy, but driving takes that little bit more
put your money where your mouth is, press it up
Post edited by owner 9/9/2005 2:09:36 PM Twisted Freq
2449 Posts
Underground, Canada
DarknessIn reply toCheers Dan.
Looks like I've offended too many peeps on here to get much feedback.
haha man , i never get feedback on here ....its always 0 replies
solid trax tho m8. percussions are tight as and it sounds nice n funky.
Simon A
3848 Posts
York
Rediculously Stonking ! Yea Ya DoIn reply to
In reply to
Cheers Dan.

Looks like I've offended too many peeps on here to get much feedback.
ill gladly give you some feedback Bongo
Been looking forward to this day for a long long time, putting aside my expectations from a tune from you(i mean for someone so vocal about how crap things are and where they should go then i was expecting mind blowingness) with a open mind i listened to your track and my honest , hand on heart feedback is .... it is dull, goes no where, completelly fizzles out after the break,yeah has a funky bass line, cool thats 1 element,if this got played in a club i reckon the crowd would be pretty uninspired or excited by it
sorry, harsh but fair, you kinda left yourself open for it really, i mean for someone who continually mocks others hard work and contribution as shit just because"you" happen to not like it i was expecting far far far more but instead you confirmed what i knew anyway that sitting in the back seat is so easy, but driving takes that little bit more
put your money where your mouth is, press it up




Meow
Norris
8062 Posts
York
Hard House In reply to
In reply to
In reply to
Cheers Dan.

Looks like I've offended too many peeps on here to get much feedback.
ill gladly give you some feedback Bongo
Been looking forward to this day for a long long time, putting aside my expectations from a tune from you(i mean for someone so vocal about how crap things are and where they should go then i was expecting mind blowingness) with a open mind i listened to your track and my honest , hand on heart feedback is .... it is dull, goes no where, completelly fizzles out after the break,yeah has a funky bass line, cool thats 1 element,if this got played in a club i reckon the crowd would be pretty uninspired or excited by it
sorry, harsh but fair, you kinda left yourself open for it really, i mean for someone who continually mocks others hard work and contribution as shit just because"you" happen to not like it i was expecting far far far more but instead you confirmed what i knew anyway that sitting in the back seat is so easy, but driving takes that little bit more
put your money where your mouth is, press it up




Meow



Equinox
15497 Posts

I would agree with that. The acid line most definately needs to be lower in the mix, it dominates over the beats at the moment making them sound a bit washed out.
GRiT
7460 Posts
In reply tocant download shit onto my comp as its fooked
When does it ever work ?
Bongo
1646 Posts
Warrnambool
Mixed BagCheers Marc, that's EXACTLY the kind of feedback I was wanting. Thanks man.
I'll disagree to an extent in that tune shouldn't really be going anywhere stratospheric anyway, it's just funky warmup tackle with a good groove, well, that's my intention anyway. But I'll still have a think about it, see if I can come up with a few ideas after the breakdown.
I actually want the acid to be prominent in the mix as it's the main part of the tune, especially after I ditched the trancey riff.
Jay, cheers for pointing that out, I'll tell banga to ran the acid through a low-cut filter to try and get a bit more separation in the mix. I'm thinking it masks the bassline waaay too much, but I still want the acid to be very prominent tho'. Should be achievable yeah?
Thanks guys, good, honest, harsh feedback is exactly what I want.
Post edited by owner 9/9/2005 9:55:08 PM Bongo
1646 Posts
Warrnambool
Mixed BagAnd just to clarify, how is calling something shit mocking it?
If I was mocking it, I'd be teasing it wouldn't I? I don't get personal, all it'll be is an off-the-cuff comment.
I mean, for fuck sake, if someone wants to call my track shit, then go ahead, it's just an opinion, everyone's got their own, and I'll be thankful they're being honest about it.
You know the weird thing is there's many music styles which I hate, country music being easily my most hated, but I'll still appreciate a well made country music song. Even some of the gash top 40, I can still appreciate it even if it's annoying as hell. But, at the moment, it's beyond me to do the same with a lot of hard dance.
Equinox
15497 Posts

It's hard for me to say really mate as I only listened to the track on the Mono speaker on my Mac. I would ask him to remove some of the low freq's anyway, but I would definately put the acid a bit further back. Take 3dB off it & see how it sits in the mix, I'm pretty sure that will make it sound more together.
Where is Matt these days?
Equinox
15497 Posts

Lucky sod, tell him I said Hi.
tripleXXX
124 Posts
surrey downs
cocainetrainchofNRGgood on ya bongas..
i dont think the sample is long enough to make a full review..but from what i heard
its got banga all over it..sounds old and slow and honestly a bit boring needs some intensity..
although i guess thats the style your going for...reminds me of ibiza...lol
Bongo
1646 Posts
Warrnambool
Mixed BagIn reply tosounds old and slow and honestly a bit boring
hahaha classic!
Lee.B
304 Posts

Funk - NRG - TranceReally like the first part of the track, really feels funky and groovy, but as already said above, the acid line is way too much and seems to dominate the whole track, which makes the kick sound pretty weak IMO.
I really dont like that vocal in the breakdown, dunno why.
Loving the funkiness of the whole track though, a bit more work and I reckon' this would be a cool warm up tune.
Twisted Freq
2449 Posts
Underground, Canada
Darknessthe percussion is fine ... its the acid line thats pushed too far ...i wouldnt
worry about whats in front cus there only 1 element anyways
Post edited by owner 10/09/2005 13:46:45 Equinox
15497 Posts

In reply to In reply toCheers Marc, that's EXACTLY the kind of feedback I was wanting. Thanks man.

No problem was more then happy to oblige
oh 1 other point i forgot to add, if this is your vision on how to save the hard house scene with innovatie,fresh exciting music then ill gladly stick to my dull,flat,generic,uninspiring, formulatic,well produced crap tunes
just my opinion though, oh and well done for trying something different

Ha Ha Marc you old smoothy ;-)
Devo
2265 Posts
Dublin
DevstepIn reply to
No problem was more then happy to oblige

oh 1 other point i forgot to add, if this is your vision on how to save the hard house scene with innovatie,fresh exciting music then ill gladly stick to my dull,flat,generic,uninspiring, formulatic,well produced crap tunes
just my opinion though, oh and well done for trying something different

Have to agree Bongo, fair play to you. A bit of funk wouldn't go astray.
Post edited by owner 10/09/2005 12:29:33 Marc Johnson
2101 Posts
London
energetic musicIn reply to
In reply to
In reply to
Cheers Marc, that's EXACTLY the kind of feedback I was wanting. Thanks man.

No problem was more then happy to oblige
oh 1 other point i forgot to add, if this is your vision on how to save the hard house scene with innovatie,fresh exciting music then ill gladly stick to my dull,flat,generic,uninspiring, formulatic,well produced crap tunes
just my opinion though, oh and well done for trying something different

Ha Ha Marc you old smoothy ;-)
sometimes these things need to be said jay

Equinox
15497 Posts

& said with such passion too ha ha ha
James Searles
1913 Posts
Nr Telford / Midlands
East russian speed bhangraIn reply to
No problem was more then happy to oblige
oh 1 other point i forgot to add, if this is your vision on how to save the hard house scene with innovatie,fresh exciting music then ill gladly stick to my dull,flat,generic,uninspiring, formulatic,well produced crap tunes
just my opinion though, oh and well done for trying something different

hahaha, just give up all together marc, ur ruining the scene

BrisbaneBill
237 Posts
Brisbane
Bouncinghey bongo mate, i thought it was a nice effort sport
its exactly what the scene needs
Post edited by owner 9/10/2005 8:22:43 PM jukesy
1895 Posts
UGH! What the fuck?
Absolute gash.


Bongo
1646 Posts
Warrnambool
Mixed Baghaha nice one jukesy. Would you like a syringe for years?
Marc, I've always said it needs saving by injecting some funk back in to it. I've also said it needs to find it's roots again, and that would be with some funk, groove and housey influences. Go read the your thoughts? thread again.
You'd do well to remember that funk and groove is what made Tripoli Trax such a great label.
Also, when's the last time a hard dance tune came out with some nice funky acid?
Too fucken long I'd say.
In reply toill gladly stick to my dull,flat,generic,uninspiring, formulatic,well produced crap tunes
Sounds good to me, it'll save me some time not listening to your tune samples anymore then. Sounds like you're still upset about my comments regarding that tune, jesus, one negative comment out of about 20 positive one's, I'm sure you've got a lot more to worry about than some insignificant dj over in Australia.
I'm not out to re-invent the wheel, just bring back some funk and fun.
But again, you're met with the same arrogance as in that your thoughts thread... djs and punters wanting some groove back and producers saying, nah there's nothing wrong with it, bang bang bang... "But why are record sales falling?"
Anyway, I'll get back to listening to Chris Hutchison's classics mix. Now THESE are fucking great tunes.
Post edited by owner 9/10/2005 11:52:13 PM Marc Johnson
2101 Posts
London
energetic musicIn reply to
haha nice one jukesy. Would you like a syringe for years?

Marc, I've always said it needs saving by injecting some funk back in to it. I've also said it needs to find it's roots again, and that would be with some funk, groove and housey influences. Go read the your thoughts? thread again.
You'd do well to remember that funk and groove is what made Tripoli Trax such a great label.Also, when's the last time a hard dance tune came out with some nice funky acid?
Too fucken long I'd say.
In reply to
ill gladly stick to my dull,flat,generic,uninspiring, formulatic,well produced crap tunes
Sounds good to me, it'll save me some time not listening to your tune samples anymore then. Sounds like you're still upset about my comments regarding that tune, jesus, one negative comment out of about 20 positive one's, I'm sure you've got a lot more to worry about than some insignificant dj over in Australia.
I'm not out to re-invent the wheel, just bring back some funk and fun.
But again, you're met with the same arrogance as in that your thoughts thread... djs and punters wanting some groove back and producers saying, nah there's nothing wrong with it, bang bang bang... "But why are record sales falling?"
Anyway, I'll get back to listening to Chris Hutchison's classics mix. Now THESE are fucking great tunes.
Bongo,really dont wish to waste anymore time speaking about your track as feel like ive been there now and entetained myself in the process
would just like to add also that your 1 comment did not offend me in the slightest regardless of how insignificant(sp) you are, i infact decided to bring up "your" comments as a tongue in cheek reference to mock you as you are indeed the biggest most severe critic on this site with harsh severe unhelpfull sometimes over the top critisism but when it was infact "your" turn to step up to the plate you failed in a miserable pitifull fashion
ironic? hmmmm
no offence just offering my feedback
ps: oh and no arrogance met re the funk, anyone who knows me closelly will tell you im working on bring back the vibe to tripoli, were in the middle of trying to tie up a "quality" funky tune, mak zimms style by a "quality" producer not some jump up'd (who proved himself to be) windbag
Post edited by owner 9/11/2005 1:03:08 AM Bongo
1646 Posts
Warrnambool
Mixed Baghahaha I'm glad your put "your" comments there.
If you check that thread the very first thing I said was "bring back" funk and swing etc. I haven't got a problem with you giving me negative feedback.
"ironic?"
Fuck me, I was thankful for your feedback, but I've got a problem with you taking it personally and offering up stupid, sarcastic comments that don't even apply referring to comments that weren't even made by me. Completely out of context.
In reply toinfact "your" turn to step up to the plate you failed in a miserable pitiful fashion
Give me a fucking break, I've been happy to cop it, laugh with, accept, and think about opinions and suggestions in this thread.
Your smug, smart-arsed comments on the other hand. Well, you think about the impression it gives for the man in charge of Tripoli.
But, then again, it's good to know you have to make stuff up to mock me.
Post edited by owner 9/11/2005 1:04:30 AM Marc Johnson
2101 Posts
London
energetic musicIn reply to
Your smug, smart-arsed comments on the other hand. Well, you think about the impression it gives for the man in charge of Tripoli.
But, then again, it's good to know you have to make stuff up to mock me.
like i said before, you live by the sword,you die by the sword, the arrogant person only comes out when i have to encounter arrogant people so ill sleep well tonight,infact will probably have sweet dreams come to think of it
(ps never took it personal,dont take things personal just if your gonna talk the talk then do yourself a favour and walk the walk or itll come back to haunt you as proved)
the impression it gives out, yeah my bosses at tripoli will probably laugh and pat me on the back for speaking my mind and following my mind and not being a lemming which is the reason i was asked to go there in the first place
No point crying over spilt milk mate,pick yourself up, dust yourself off and try again
Post edited by owner 9/11/2005 1:21:07 AM Bongo
1646 Posts
Warrnambool
Mixed BagActually, after reading this...
In reply tosome jump up'd (who proved himself to be) windbag
You obviously decided to go one step further. Did I EVER resort to slinging personal insults?
You can go fuck yourself.
Thanks for giving me the desire to get things moving tho', nothing like a bit of "stick it up 'em" attitude to get us aussies going.
Post edited by owner 9/11/2005 2:02:00 AM Mr S
6355 Posts
Adelaide
Unintelligent Repetitive BullshitIn reply to
Actually, after reading this...
In reply to
some jump up'd (who proved himself to be) windbag
You can go fuck yourself.
FIRE UP BONGAS!!

Tyssen
4292 Posts
Brisbane
Psy trance/progressiveIn reply tops never took it personal,dont take things personal
Says the guy who ends up resorting to personal insults.

GRiT
7460 Posts
Guys, don't you reckon it's getting a bit out of hand now ?
J�gerMarty
3693 Posts
Melbourne
Terror-ProgFire up indeed,
he asked for constructive criticism and got it, fair enough
He didn't ask for personal attacks so stay on the farken topic
By the way, I like the acid line, but you'd not be too surprised there mate
Bongo
1646 Posts
Warrnambool
Mixed BagYes, things are and have gotten out of hand Franz.
I'll make no apologies tho', if Marc had've stuck to things I have said and suggested (somehow gets the idea I wanted to re-invent hard house?!, all I've ever said was to bring back old elements...)then I'd cop it on the chin. But then to take it personal was too far in my book. He doesn't like the track, fair enough, has problems with production... calls the track shit... bring it on... I've never insulted a producer on here, only given an honest first impression opinion of their tracks. If I'm gunna die by the sword, then keep it to how shit my track is, how the bassline does nothing for you, how the acid is boring, how it comes back in with nothing...
Marc Johnson
2101 Posts
London
energetic musicIn reply to
Yes, things are and have gotten out of hand Franz.
I'll make no apologies tho', if Marc had've stuck to things I have said and suggested (somehow gets the idea I wanted to re-invent hard house?!, all I've ever said was to bring back old elements...)then I'd cop it on the chin. But then to take it personal was too far in my book. He doesn't like the track, fair enough, has problems with production... calls the track shit... bring it on... I've never insulted a producer on here, only given an honest first impression opinion of their tracks. If I'm gunna die by the sword, then keep it to how shit my track is, how the bassline does nothing for you, how the acid is boring, how it comes back in with nothing...
yeah it did get out of hand, meerly showing bongo what it feels like to be on the recieving end of needless,unconstructive critisim with a rant of my own completely off tangent
hopefully next time you decide to severlly take a swipe at a track and go all off tangent with your tired rants you may think back to how you feel now before you click return and maybe reconstruct your critisim so its of value to any producers you feel like tearing a strip off to ease your own fustrations within the scene
its not big and its not clever
jukesy
1895 Posts
i think bongo's just upset cos the ashes are coming back over here 
Daz
26810 Posts
The tune isnt anything special IMO, its boring and bland... i wouldnt buy it!!
Bongo
1646 Posts
Warrnambool
Mixed BagIn reply toyeah it did get out of hand, meerly showing bongo what it feels like to be on the recieving end of needless,unconstructive critisim with a rant of my own completely off tangent
hopefully next time you decide to severlly take a swipe at a track and go all off tangent with your tired rants you may think back to how you feel now before you click return and maybe reconstruct your critisim so its of value to any producers you feel like tearing a strip off to ease your own fustrations within the scene
its not big and its not clever
Go have a cry about it.
On the contrary, it gives me greater reason to give honest feedback, oooh ooh some guy over in australia made bad comment about my track WAH! WAH! Think I'll make some shit up and get personal to prove a point...... yeah, that'll do it. haha
Cheers for the honest feedback Daz.

Post edited by owner 9/11/2005 8:23:46 PM Marc Johnson
2101 Posts
London
energetic musici apoliogise for going one step further with such a savge personal attack calling you a jumped up windbag(was just a observation, wasnt meaning to be nasty) im just pleased now that this thread was the subject of such entertainment for me and i didnt be really nasty and call you something bad like a.....silly billy!!!!!!! or maybe you would have had a good reason to throw your toys out of the pram like you did
right mate, its Insekt week so as youd appreciate i wont have the time to be on here much so this is me signing off, please feel free to vent any fustrations and.........
fire up
and good luck with getting the tune signed(see no cheap gags about you needing it as that would be way too obvious)
take care and good luck mate

Daz
26810 Posts
In reply toi
apoliogise for going one step further with such a savge
personal attack calling you a jumped up windbag(was just a observation,
wasnt meaning to be nasty) im just pleased now that this thread was the
subject of such entertainment for me and i didnt be really nasty and
call you something bad like a.....silly billy!!!!!!! or maybe you
would have had a good reason to throw your toys out of the pram like
you did
right mate, its Insekt week so as youd appreciate i wont have the
time to be on here much so this is me signing off, please feel
free to vent any fustrations and.........
fire up
and good luck with getting the tune signed(see no cheap gags about you needing it as that would be way too obvious)
take care and good luck mate
<------------------------------ HA HA
nice entertaining thread!
WONGA!
23604 Posts

To be perfectly honest Marc, while you are perfectly within your rights to say that you don't like the track and suggest improvements (read James and Jays comments as an example) there is no need to start prattling on, calling Bongo a jumped up windbag is fucking pathetic. This is someone who is pretty much just starting out in production, I bet your first few tunes weren't anything special either right? I know exactly what your response is going to be (Just replying to kind to what he says to other producers): I have never seen Bongo resort to personal insults. Why should you have to be a good producer to be able to comment on a track? Thats a load of shit and you know it

Just say that you don't like the track and be done with it, with your high and mighty attitude that you've shown in this thread it's downright childish to resort to what you have written.
Edit: For the record, it's not as if Bongo is wholly to blame for making this track, Banga is also partly to blame, but I bet you wouldn't make the same comments to him right?
Post edited by owner 9/12/2005 1:11:24 PM WONGA!
23604 Posts

BTW I know you have apologised, albeit in an absolutely sarcastic manner, just wanted to throw my 2 cents in.
Tyssen
4292 Posts
Brisbane
Psy trance/progressiveIn reply toBTW I know you have apologised, albeit in an absolutely sarcastic manner, just wanted to throw my 2 cents in.
I don't view an apology with

at the end as an apology at all. More a deliberate attempt to be provocative and pretty poor form IMO.

WONGA!
23604 Posts

In reply to In reply toBTW I know you have apologised, albeit in an absolutely sarcastic manner, just wanted to throw my 2 cents in.
I don't view an apology with

at the end as an apology at all. More a deliberate attempt to be provocative and pretty poor form IMO.
Thats what I was getting at (or meant to, reading it back it doesn't come through like that)

James Searles
1913 Posts
Nr Telford / Midlands
East russian speed bhangraYOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF MARC JOHNSON, HOW DARE YOU BE SO NASTY. DONT EVER COME ON THIS MESSAGE BOARD AGAIN. YOUR JUST RUINING THE ATMOSPHERE. 
on second thoughts......... nah, carry on 
Post edited by owner 12/09/2005 13:53:00 reality
2 Posts
Marc Johnson - crap attitude, crap personality and crap tunes. I assume if this was anybody else they would be told where to get off but there seems to be a lot of back scratchers afraid to speak out to the Almighty. I don't know what went on before this thread but it seems Bongo actually had the cheek to say he didn't like something! Dear God.
Post edited by owner 12/09/2005 15:04:23 Gary C
30 Posts
Charlotte
Techno / Hard HouseIn reply to
Marc Johnson - crap attitude, crap personality and crap tunes. I assume if this was anybody else they would be told where to get off but there seems to be a lot of back scratchers afraid to speak out to the Almighty. I don't know what went on before this thread but it seems Bongo actually had the cheek to say he didn't like something! Dear God.
hey dude, i think your totally out of line. Just because there are othere people throwing insults around it doesnt mean you can.
Post edited by owner 12/09/2005 18:35:58 BEEF
4520 Posts
Melbourne
PsylenceIn reply to
In reply to
BTW I know you have apologised, albeit in an absolutely sarcastic manner, just wanted to throw my 2 cents in.
I don't view an apology with

at the end as an apology at all. More a deliberate attempt to be provocative and pretty poor form IMO.

Agreed....poor poor form

Bongo
1646 Posts
Warrnambool
Mixed BagIn reply toEdit: For the record, it's not as if Bongo is wholly to blame for making this track, Banga is also partly to blame, but I bet you wouldn't make the same comments to him right?
ahaha farken hell that's the funniest thing I've read in ages... now everyone join in and blame me and banga for making a track mwahahaha if only we'd done the world a favour and not bother heh
I'm tempted to respond to the needing it bit but... Let's keep it to the track now fellas. I'd love some more feedback. The harsher the better.
From what I gather the general consensus is fix the acid (bring down in level, LCF), tighten bassline a tad, and maybe bring the energy levels up a bit when it comes back in. Thanks everyone.

Post edited by owner 9/13/2005 1:55:13 AM WONGA!
23604 Posts

In reply to In reply toEdit: For the record, it's not as if Bongo is wholly to blame for making this track, Banga is also partly to blame, but I bet you wouldn't make the same comments to him right?
ahaha farken hell that's the funniest thing I've read in ages... now everyone join in and blame me and banga for making a track mwahahaha if only we'd done the world a favour and not bother heh
Errrrm, I'm not sure if you've missed the point I was trying to make or not? All I'm saying that if Marc is having a go at you for making this track then he should be having a go at Banga as well which I bet he won't. I'm not sure whats so funny about that, maybe I selected the word blame based on how Marc feels about this track, I don't blame you at all, I think it's an alright tune, nothing special, wouldn't buy it because I've got enough fillers in my collection and I definitely don't need another one.
Bongo
1646 Posts
Warrnambool
Mixed Baghaha I know what you meant mate, just loved the thought of getting blamed for making a track, cracks me up. hehe.
Cheers for the thoughts on the track too, pretty much what I think of it too, to be honest, just a decent filler, kinda what I wanted to do anyway, I'm not out to set the world on fire for a while yet. Gimme another 5 years.

Post edited by owner 9/13/2005 2:21:11 AM Bongo
1646 Posts
Warrnambool
Mixed BagIn reply toThe synth sounds too tinny. Not filtered enough. Also I generally don't really like the pattern.
You mean the hoover?
WONGA!
23604 Posts

In reply to haha I know what you meant mate, just loved the thought of getting blamed for making a track, cracks me up. hehe.
Cheers for the thoughts on the track too, pretty much what I think of it too, to be honest, just a decent filler, kinda what I wanted to do anyway, I'm not out to set the world on fire for a while yet. Gimme another 5 years.
Well it is your fault you bastard
A few years ago I would've probably snapped it up, but I'm way to selective these days, if I need a filler I'll dig out something old and minimal rather than something new.
Exactly, it's not as if you're some old skool producer or anything, I'm guessing this is your first proper tune?
Cilla Battersby
21837 Posts
Worcester
Technobongo, ill take a listen to this tonight and let u know what i think, if its shit though mate, u'll get one hell of an ass-whipping for destroying the scene,
did u manage to listen to my cd btw.
Narc
2604 Posts
Adelaide
proper hard nrgBongas, i think the bottomline is that you are capable yourself of deciding what this tune is lacking or really needs to improve things. I understand that its good to get comments or ideas on your work etc,.. but i think you just have to be honest with yourself here dude.
Are you happy with the tune? If you are, and i think you are, well.. thats all you should be worrying about..
Im done with the days of posting clipped tracks for feedback etc.. I stick to what i like doing and am not fussed if someones not liking it.
Do your music for yourself mate, if peeps wanna come along for the ride then thats just a bonus
EDIT: i'll just add that i think any publicity is good publicity, and from this thread your farken laughing

Post edited by owner 9/13/2005 9:23:12 AM Bongo
1646 Posts
Warrnambool
Mixed BagCheers Costi. Read my mind mate, only a couple of tiny little things on my mind, but on the whole I'm happy with it.
Dave, I'm so sorry I haven't given you any feedback yet, pm on it's way mate.
haha so right there, just another thing to thank the Marc Johnson for.

Post edited by owner 9/13/2005 11:09:23 AM J�gerMarty
3693 Posts
Melbourne
Terror-ProgIn reply to
Bongas, i think the bottomline is that you are capable yourself of deciding what this tune is lacking or really needs to improve things. I understand that its good to get comments or ideas on your work etc,.. but i think you just have to be honest with yourself here dude.
Are you happy with the tune? If you are, and i think you are, well.. thats all you should be worrying about..
Im done with the days of posting clipped tracks for feedback etc.. I stick to what i like doing and am not fussed if someones not liking it.
Do your music for yourself mate, if peeps wanna come along for the ride then thats just a bonus

EDIT: i'll just add that i think any publicity is good publicity, and from this thread your farken laughing

Never a finer word spoken
and yep any publicity is good.
And Luke, I can't wait to hear what your making in the next 6-12 mths
GRADY G
433 Posts
THE HOOD
BRUTAL NRGIn reply to
Bongas, i think the bottomline is that you are capable yourself of deciding what this tune is lacking or really needs to improve things. I understand that its good to get comments or ideas on your work etc,.. but i think you just have to be honest with yourself here dude.
Are you happy with the tune? If you are, and i think you are, well.. thats all you should be worrying about..
Im done with the days of posting clipped tracks for feedback etc.. I stick to what i like doing and am not fussed if someones not liking it.
Do your music for yourself mate, if peeps wanna come along for the ride then thats just a bonus

well said my nigga

Marc Johnson
2101 Posts
London
energetic musicIn reply to
To be perfectly honest Marc, while you are perfectly within your rights to say that you don't like the track and suggest improvements (read James and Jays comments as an example) there is no need to start prattling on, calling Bongo a jumped up windbag is fucking pathetic. This is someone who is pretty much just starting out in production, I bet your first few tunes weren't anything special either right? I know exactly what your response is going to be (Just replying to kind to what he says to other producers): I have never seen Bongo resort to personal insults. Why should you have to be a good producer to be able to comment on a track? Thats a load of shit and you know it

Just say that you don't like the track and be done with it, with your high and mighty attitude that you've shown in this thread it's downright childish to resort to what you have written.
Edit: For the record, it's not as if Bongo is wholly to blame for making this track, Banga is also partly to blame, but I bet you wouldn't make the same comments to him right?
Wonga if you read through the thread then youll see that its not about being able to make good tunes to voice a opinion on tunes as yes you are right that is bullshit,
This has stemmed from Bongo(and hell be the first to admit it)severe and sometimes over the top in his critisisms, such is life
Now on my part,i did see it as a chance to put the shoe on the other foot,couldnt resist if im honest,thats the fun of message boards i guess,unprofessional maybe, but musics a hobby not a job so in the same veign why shouldnt i get involved in the duals,if that makes me high and mighty cause ive had tunes released then so be it but im far from that
yeah it got carried away,on both sides i might add,again such is life, i wont cry over it as im sure bongo wont
Bongo(honestlly this time) good luck with it,no hard feelings,best advice has already been given, make tunes for yourself,whoever comes along for the ride is a bonus,and youll never please everyone so dont try to,
PS Reality, nice 1st or 2nd post, as said above it wasnt because he disliked something of mine as my shit does stink so not against being critisised,far from it, it was about the way he went on about everything which triggered this,nice of you to register just to let me know though,live by sword etc, guess i been told hey

WONGA!
23604 Posts

In reply to In reply toTo be perfectly honest Marc, while you are perfectly within your rights to say that you don't like the track and suggest improvements (read James and Jays comments as an example) there is no need to start prattling on, calling Bongo a jumped up windbag is fucking pathetic. This is someone who is pretty much just starting out in production, I bet your first few tunes weren't anything special either right? I know exactly what your response is going to be (Just replying to kind to what he says to other producers): I have never seen Bongo resort to personal insults. Why should you have to be a good producer to be able to comment on a track? Thats a load of shit and you know it

Just say that you don't like the track and be done with it, with your high and mighty attitude that you've shown in this thread it's downright childish to resort to what you have written.
Edit: For the record, it's not as if Bongo is wholly to blame for making this track, Banga is also partly to blame, but I bet you wouldn't make the same comments to him right?
Wonga if you read through the thread then youll see that its not about being able to make good tunes to voice a opinion on tunes as yes you are right that is bullshit,
This has stemmed from Bongo(and hell be the first to admit it)severe and sometimes over the top in his critisisms, such is life
Now on my part,i did see it as a chance to put the shoe on the other foot,couldnt resist if im honest,thats the fun of message boards i guess,unprofessional maybe, but musics a hobby not a job so in the same veign why shouldnt i get involved in the duals,if that makes me high and mighty cause ive had tunes released then so be it but im far from that
yeah it got carried away,on both sides i might add,again such is life, i wont cry over it as im sure bongo wont
Coolio, I just felt like having a rant at you really, as if I really give a shit about something as petty as this lol
I do know that you're not high and mighty at all, I've got the utmost respect for you for what you've done in your 'career' but in the case of this thread you did come over that way, shit happens eh?

Odyssey
4 Posts
Adelaide
Big improvement on the 1st take ..
like the sample, should be a tad louder/ clearer, love the kick
good warm up bizness
MattR
551 Posts
Adelaide
Hey Luke, Most of the feedback has been good so take that away
and put it to good use. If you like what you do and have a
vision, stick to it. Focus on developing a sound that is
unique to you. Good luck.
Cheers,
Matt
Narc
2604 Posts
Adelaide
proper hard nrgFunny old read this one. He's on facebook, Matt Banga. Still producing loads by the look of it. Doing the tech house /electro / dubstep thing.