Denon vs Pioneer

 
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3 years ago
joncraig
5 Posts
In reply to

lol @ everyone who is recommending Denon.

 

 

The pioneer's rock compared to the 5000's because there belt drive and bit of a joke for the money, wouldn't be so sure about the 3500 comeback though, need to test them as they seem to be meaning business, will be interesting to see if their new .02 pitch resolution is as sturdy as the CDj's, the fact they have a spindle would give great hand's on to dj's more familiar with traditional decks!idea

eyesup 


3 years ago
Morbz
mrbonez Pic27689 Posts
England
Music Style TIMMEH & THE LORDS OF THE UNDERWORLD!
i know that technically they are much better (pioneers) but i was amazed at how flimsy they feel compared to my numark axis 9's.  surely for that cash pioneer could come up with a sturdier feeling jog wheel and maybe even a metal top plate
2 years ago
djreggyreg
1 Posts
i would consider getting the denon s3500 ive played them both and the denon to me is the winner so good luck... And it is cheaper...
2 years ago
Mr Miyagi
mrmiyagi Pic3117 Posts
USAChicago
Music Style music music music

I'm selling a Denon S5000 right now. I'll sell it for $600US plus int'l shipping.

 

 

2 years ago
IRIDIUM
215 Posts

rolleyes Erm, Wtf, a Denon over a pioneer, get out.

 

Pioneer all the way !

2 years ago
Gopal
Gopal Pic1304 Posts
New ZealandAuckland
Music Style Solid Core

And double LOL on all the people that say DJM600s have shite sound quality. 

Don't believe all the hype about Allen & Heaths.

 

 

2 years ago
In Vino Veritas
jonnyboy Pic21638 Posts
Australia
Pffft, the 600 has awful sound quality - we had one setup alongside a 92 at one of our parties last year because one of the DJs specifically requested one, the moment we swapped over it was audibly noticable that the sound quality was pretty poor compared to the A&H and everyone commented on it - the Pioneer has always been known to have bad sound quality, Vestax, A&H, Urei, Rane etc all sound miles better.
2 years ago
Dave Owens
Dave Owens Pic1401 Posts
United KingdomThe North West
Music Style Hard House / NRG
I dont think I could argue that the Pioneer has better sound quality than the A&H as I dont think it does, just everything else about it that I hate. Haha.
2 years ago
In Vino Veritas
jonnyboy Pic21638 Posts
Australia
Mixers are so personal really, I've never really got on with Pioneers even though I've played on them thousands of times, just something about them that I don't like - it's like Vestax decks, I just hate the feel of them. In terms of feel I don't think you can go past Vestax mixers, they're so well set out and generally rock solid. A&H's are bombproof, but I hate the faders on them even though they are Penny&Giles ones, technically great, but the dodgy plastic bits and the slight wobble to them - I'll pass thanks. Rane and Urei make the best though, superb sound quality, build quality, layout etc etc
2 years ago
Goose
goose Pic5147 Posts
EnglandLondon
Music Style Prog, Trance, Tech Trance
Allen & Heath Xone-62 is officically the cheapiest nastiest flimsiest junky piece of crap i have ever had the mis pleasure of using. Used it week in week out for the past 18 months and is pure hatred in electronic form.

If this is the standard by which all allen & heath mixers are built by i will honestly stick with pioneers et al.
2 years ago
Dave Owens
Dave Owens Pic1401 Posts
United KingdomThe North West
Music Style Hard House / NRG
In reply to
Mixers are so personal really, I've never really got on with Pioneers even though I've played on them thousands of times, just something about them that I don't like - it's like Vestax decks, I just hate the feel of them. In terms of feel I don't think you can go past Vestax mixers, they're so well set out and generally rock solid. A&H's are bombproof, but I hate the faders on them even though they are Penny&Giles ones, technically great, but the dodgy plastic bits and the slight wobble to them - I'll pass thanks. Rane and Urei make the best though, superb sound quality, build quality, layout etc etc


No way, vestax mixers are the WORST. Crap slack faders, worse slippery small eq's. Although I dont scratch so some of these things might be useful to others.

Still crap like.

2 years ago
In Vino Veritas
jonnyboy Pic21638 Posts
Australia
See, this is what I mean, people look for different things in their mixers - the top end Vestax stuff is fucking gold by any standards, really well built, solid faders, the eq's are pretty small though haha

A&H are generally regarded as bomb proof, but there are differing opinions on that one, same with Pioneer - I think they are built like a soft pack of ciggies and have seen some seriously fucked up ones, but some people swear by them.

Same applies with headphones, carts, decks etc etc etc There is no right or wrong answer really. Except for Kam and Gemini, they can get fucked yawn
2 years ago
Gopal
Gopal Pic1304 Posts
New ZealandAuckland
Music Style Solid Core
In my experience, Vestax mixers have sound quality several times worse than the Pioneer.  Always sound really thin and harsh.  Great faders I'll admitt and great for scratching on.  But if you don't scratch, I can't imagine a single reason why you would want a vestax.
1 years ago
cdj1000
1 Posts
Denon vs. Pioneer.  It all comes down to user preference.  I've pretty much tested and worked with all cd desks and turntables.  I prefer and currently own the Pioneer CDJ-1000mk3.  Denon 3500 and 5000 blow away the Pioneers when it comes to features.  However, when it comes to quality, the Pioneer is a better built machine.  Believe me, I put these machines to the test.  Why do you think Denon comes out with new machines very often.  They are constantly trying to beat Pioneer but are unsuccessful each time.  I recommend the Pioneers to you.  Yes it costs more but it is worth it in the long run especially if you are keeping them for a long time.  If you are still interested in Denon, don't go for the  cd decks...Look into the dual decks like the Denon 9000 or the new hd2500.
1 years ago
Barry Scott
joeaudio Pic3556 Posts
United KingdomGood As New
Music Style Penny Cleaning

I've used Denons (the ones with the spinning platter and two tracks off one CD thing) and CDJ1000s side by side, the Denons are shit imo. They seem great but when you touch the platter (or PB buttons) they either dont slow down enough, or nearly grind to a halt. There's also 2 buttons right near the PB ones that skip 1 minute into your track and they are so easy to press in a dark club, making you look like a bellend. Id rather use CDJ100s than those pieces of shit. IMHO laughing

CDJs are just so intuitive, and you know what you're getting in a club just like 1210s. 

1 years ago
rP ™
pr1cer Pic5362 Posts
Brunei Darussalam
First part of this thread was confusing until I noticed it was 2 years old laughing
1 years ago
Tom Urwin
dodja Pic7439 Posts
United KingdomNorwich
Music Style Hard
not tried denons, but CDJ1000s are lurvely and standard so why get anythin else?
1 years ago
AL DENTE
alanb Pic168 Posts
Ireland
and the other 99.1% of the clubs use denon..judging by them satistics...eeek ..lol
1 years ago
MMCKEE703
MMCKEE703 Pic72 Posts
Northern IrelandLOYAL BELFAST
Music Style HARD
Pioneers definitley. If you can afford it get mk2 800 or mk2/mk3 1000's. Every club i play has em and the control is just as good as 1200's. Mk1 800's are a bit on the free side and dont respond to slight touch just as well.
1 years ago
Stu
discostu333 Pic5068 Posts
United KingdomIsle du Homme
Music Style Techno / Psy / Beats
Pioneer mate hands down. You won't use half the features of the Denon anyway. Its like saying 'Chavved Up Saxo versus BMW'. The BMW might have less bells and whistles but its a hell of a better drive. Pioneer is the BMW by the way. kingthumbsup
1 years ago
Steve Kingston
steveserrano Pic1292 Posts
EnglandLeeds
Music Style Trance, Techno, Hard House, House
Personal chose really, pioneers for me all the the way. And the whole pioneer mixers have shit sound quality thing isnt as ture these days thanks to the DJM 800 and 1000, however the 500 and 600 are below par on this, but their old mixers, been around for years. I hate the layout of the Xone 64 and Xone 96 is cool tho.
1 years ago
Lance Morgan
lement Pic325 Posts
AustraliaGC
Music Style Dark & Dirty

djm 800's kick the shit out of any mixer, any1 whom has used them will testify to this. And the cdj 800 is unreal 4 the money. I have two and am now on the verge of ditching vinyl.

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