Genres explained.......................

 
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6 years ago
biomechanic
psynaptek Pic778 Posts
United KingdomBrighton
Music Style HARD

well not by me, but can someone please give a brief overview of how you would identify a genre. So far on BT I have noted

(funky/hard/tech) house

(hard/nu) nrg

(hard/psy) trance (core)

(acid/hard) techno

freeform

hardcore

hardstyle

6 years ago
jk
jamesk Pic1689 Posts
United KingdomEssex
Music Style teh hard funk
hey man how can you forget funky techno biggrin
6 years ago
TERRY VERNIXX
VERNIXX Pic392 Posts
USAAlbuquerque
Music Style Techno

^ Very easily!

 

Just kidding.................................................biggrin

6 years ago
Mooshoo
NOONOO76 Pic14658 Posts
In my opinion music is music and you can call it whatever ya like.  Who was the man in charge of dishin out labels in the first place, i mean, how do you determine that Techno is Techno.... because it has been made on electrical technology or because it has a technological sound.  If it is the former then all dance music should be called Techno but if it is the latter then all music that has synths in ie. old bands like Kraftwerk should also be called Techno.  At the end of the day i class music as i hear it, if it has energy then it's NRG, if it's made up prodimantly of drum beats and basslines it's drum and bass.... people just invent genres to explain easier to other people what they produce/listen to or play.  Well thats my reasoning anyhoo!!!! muntedwink
6 years ago
Andy
andyhaley Pic30000 Posts
England
In my experience the only way to tell one from another is by experience and listening carefully until you pick up the similarities. To explain it in terms of basslines, bpm, synths, hoovers, kicks and stabs etc would be seriously confusing.
6 years ago
GRiT
GRIT Pic7460 Posts

I'll mention of what I know better (not best) .. and keep in mind this is my personal opinion and there certainly will be people that disagree with me ...

HardHouse : It's exactly what it says on the tin. Hard House. TDV, older Paul King tracks, Dom Sweeten's tracks on Battle Jaxx, etc. Hard House was called Hardbag (or was it Handbag - lol) at the time it was most popular in it's truest form .. Tunes became more synthy with harder kicks and so it evolved to what you have today. OD404 / Defective Audio, Aftermath, Nik Denton, Paul King, etc

Nu NRG : OD404, Karim, Paul Glazby, Justin Bourne, Dynamic Intervention, Masmada / JP & Jukesy, etc. Much more synthy although the basic structure is identical to HardHouse as it is today. With today's understanding of HardHouse, it's never been more difficult to distinguish between NRG & HH. It's a tough call. But back in the day it used to be quite different. Hoovers & ripping, gritty synths + percussion much like today's HH is at the order of the day.

Hard NRG : Casper, Captain Tinrib, Equinox, Karim, . Like above, it's hard to distinguish between NU & Hard NRG. People don't really bother with the Hard or NU tags these days (well, not round here anyway). Pretty much the same thing but once again there was a much more definitive difference in times passed. At least IMO.

Hard Trance : Well, its Trance with oomph aint it. Signum, Legend B, Heaven's Cry, Jon Doe, BK, Phil Reynolds, Nick Sentience, Kevin Energy, Lab4, Weirdo .. and todays stars (reviving a once despised and rinsed genre to many) like Pienaar & Bamford, Technikal, Nick Rowland & Dave Wright, Dark By Design, Carbon Based, etc.

PsyTrance : PsyTrance is the now evolved sound of Goa Trance. It's melodic & very trippy stuff with weird effects, busy basslines and swooping melodies. It can be 'Full On' like Astral Projection, MFG .. and GMS, Dark Soho, Talamasca, Fractal Glider, Hallucinogen, Juno Reactor, Logic Bomb on a darker edge .. or 'Minimal' like Space Cat, Koxbox, Sonkite, Cosma, Spirallianz, etc.

Freeform : Much like Hard Trance, with influences from other genre's like NRG, Breaks/DnB, etc .. Just much faster. People could argue it's Hardcore or even Trance Core ... perhaps so, but to me there's a difference in Hardcore & Freeform. Slight, but I DO put them in different boxes. The furious Finnish like Alek Szahala, Carbon Based, Pain On Creation, Re-form, and others like Lost Soul, Kevin Energy, The Mexican who I consider doing Freeform, certainly sports a different sound than tracks from guys like CLSM, Scott Brown, Robbie Long, AMS, Oli G, Helix & Fury, The Blizzard Boys / DJ Phosphor .. Freeform IMO is slightly more melodic and well polished than the rough, distorted, over driven sounds of Hardcore. There's also a happier, bouncier side with cheesy vocals and more dire elements .. but we look past that, don't we ..

I'll leave the Techno & Harstyle for someone with more knowledge to guide you there. 


Post edited by owner 2004/09/08 05:12:47 PM
6 years ago
TERRY VERNIXX
VERNIXX Pic392 Posts
USAAlbuquerque
Music Style Techno
Good one GRiT! Very informative and well written....thumbsup
6 years ago
Steve K
seeka Pic1070 Posts
United KingdomLuton, MK, Birmingham
Music Style Hardcore, Freeform & Gabba

imo freeform is apart of hardcore, as with every genre of music, you have all the different sub catergories; funky, progressive, hard, disco, acid etc etc but with hardcore its just basically freeform, hardcore and gabba which all come under the "hardcore" brand

6 years ago
Twisted Freq
level13 Pic2444 Posts
CanadaUnderground, Canada
Music Style Darkness

well freeform is part hardcore part drum n bass & part trance . freeforms about the same speed as hardcore & drum n bass but has more emotion then hardcore or drum n bass . be it dark emotion or fluffy with cheezy vocals. im pretty new at it but seems like theres a uk & finland style . the finni style is mind blowing with dark energy .

6 years ago
dB
spacefunky Pic7237 Posts
Canada

Replying To

well freeform is part hardcore part drum n bass & part trance . freeforms about the same speed as hardcore & drum n bass but has more emotion then hardcore or drum n bass . be it dark emotion or fluffy with cheezy vocals. im pretty new at it but seems like theres a uk & finland style . the finni style is mind blowing with dark energy .

careful there.....  some might take offence to that second statement.... lol

6 years ago
Mooshoo
NOONOO76 Pic14658 Posts
I always thought that Freeform was completely 'free' of 'form' hence the name.  It doesn't necasserily follow any guidelines which makes it so unique!!!
6 years ago
dB
spacefunky Pic7237 Posts
Canada
but that ain't so true now is it.... madtongue
6 years ago
Daz
daz1 Pic26283 Posts
GRiT you know your shit..... To be honest i couldnt have defined each genre like that... Im still young and learning!! uhoh
6 years ago
biomechanic
psynaptek Pic778 Posts
United KingdomBrighton
Music Style HARD

to all above thanks thats cleared things up for me a bit.

GRIT you are a star.

 

6 years ago
Twisted Freq
level13 Pic2444 Posts
CanadaUnderground, Canada
Music Style Darkness
In reply to
I always thought that Freeform was completely 'free' of 'form' hence the name.  It doesn't necasserily follow any guidelines which makes it so unique!!!


well even freeform has guide lines like anything else . i think its just cus freeform has soo many options as to what you can do . you can make it sound more on the hardcore side or you can make it more on the drum n bass side or more on the fluffy side or more on the dark side . almost anything works with freeform. ive even heard a bit of classical in freeform (piano) . also perhaps its cus its soo jam packed with a wide variety of elements


Post edited by owner 2004-09-09 14:27:23
6 years ago
Andy
andyhaley Pic30000 Posts
England
Who was that bloke on the old forum who posted about freeform? He started quoting some tool who said the only proper freeform was when jazz types started playing random notes on their instruments.
6 years ago
Twisted Freq
level13 Pic2444 Posts
CanadaUnderground, Canada
Music Style Darkness
lol that sounds more like simple basic improv
6 years ago
Mooshoo
NOONOO76 Pic14658 Posts
In reply to
Who was that bloke on the old forum who posted about freeform? He started quoting some tool who said the only proper freeform was when jazz types started playing random notes on their instruments.

Yeah i remember that thread, it was called 'freeform explained' i believe.  Quite an indepth explanation although it wasn't actually by himself... just something he found on the net!!!supercool
6 years ago
dB
spacefunky Pic7237 Posts
Canada
Replying To
Who was that bloke on the old forum who posted about freeform? He started quoting some tool who said the only proper freeform was when jazz types started playing random notes on their instruments.

 

i remember that guy... 2far

 

he was actually commenting that it shouldn't be called freeform because there is a genre of Jazz that is "called" freeform improv.

which is sort of right..... but unless you are playing a sick live pa with a full fucking band ... i'd like to see anyone "improv" a freeform set.

 

 

seriously ... i'd like to see that! thumbsup

6 years ago
Max
madmax Pic20148 Posts
EnglandBangkok
Music Style OLD SCHOOL JACKING HARDHOUSE
In reply to
Who was that bloke on the old forum who posted about freeform? He started quoting some tool who said the only proper freeform was when jazz types started playing random notes on their instruments.

sounds like a headache
6 years ago
dB
spacefunky Pic7237 Posts
Canada
they would still play within a shifting chord structure.... its not totally random.
6 years ago
Twisted Freq
level13 Pic2444 Posts
CanadaUnderground, Canada
Music Style Darkness
seems just like an improv jam to me . freeform would need elements from every/any instrument in the musical spectrum . it should be open to any genre .
6 years ago
Captain
NICK Pic11687 Posts
USASuperAmerica
Music Style thru and thru
i think they should have a genre based on my butthole, it can be called hard poopy uhoh
6 years ago
toniwhereguy
toniwhosguy Pic1971 Posts
United Kingdom
Music Style HARD house
i remember when techno was anyrecord played speeded up!

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