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3 years ago
Goose
goose Pic5149 Posts
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yes Alex...rolleyes in waht way exactly is he fleecing people?!? He makes something, he knows it will sell, so he makes some more and sells them at price. They run out buit its obvious that more will sell, so he makes more. This is called "good business strategy".... or in thick-fuckers terms(for you) "Supply and demand". If youre pissed opff because he decided to make some more then quite honestly youre pretty wierd. businesses all over the world do it every day...........
however...that point aside....u still appear to be missing the point comnpletely.

Karim said up there /\/\/\ that it is NOT true that there was only 30 available....you appear to have made this up.
3 years ago
E Lloyd
elloyd Pic929 Posts
TaiwanBournemouth but in Taiwan
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a living mate? there's a living n then taking the piss.

When u earn 300quid or so a gig. Do one of them a week, thats 1,200 a month, 16,800 quid a year. Thats a living innit?

If ur talkin about dj, producers makin a living. U reckon he pays royalities for those 30quid remixes?

I usually agree with a lot of what you post mate.. but this sort of statement winds me up.



whys it wind u up?
3 years ago
E Lloyd
elloyd Pic929 Posts
TaiwanBournemouth but in Taiwan
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yes Alex...rolleyes in waht way exactly is he fleecing people?!? He makes something, he knows it will sell, so he makes some more and sells them at price. They run out buit its obvious that more will sell, so he makes more. This is called "good business strategy".... or in thick-fuckers terms(for you) "Supply and demand". If youre pissed opff because he decided to make some more then quite honestly youre pretty wierd. businesses all over the world do it every day...........
however...that point aside....u still appear to be missing the point comnpletely.

Karim said up there /\/\/\ that it is NOT true that there was only 30 available....you appear to have made this up.


Bollocks is not true. I remember reading about limited prices. If not, how do you think he originally justified 30quid for a remix?
3 years ago
Tarty
tarty Pic2677 Posts
EnglandLeicestershire
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karim has done a few different remixes of this track, so its prob just the ones hes got left of the latest remix?? plus £30 is for a one of press isnt it? so its gonna cost a little for time and effort.

Post edited by owner 18/01/2006 13:34:30
3 years ago
Goose
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a living mate? there's a living n then taking the piss.

When u earn 300quid or so a gig. Do one of them a week, thats 1,200 a month, 16,800 quid a year. Thats a living innit?

If ur talkin about dj, producers makin a living. U reckon he pays royalities for those 30quid remixes?



so because hes in a position where he earns a bit, it means hes not aloowed to put a price on his work?!

If i was an artist earning millions, and i painted the next masterpiece or something that i deemed was really good, do u think id sell it cheap to do favours to people i didnt even know?! would i fuck, and neither would you. You would make as much as you could out of it as another chance might not come along. Same with Nike....shall they start giving away free airmaxes? or aston martin giving away free cars as they earn enough?! of course not u tit!
Crap point to make!!

If the price is what pisses you off then surely its the people that have bought it that you should be pissed off at? as if no one bought it the price would have to come down, but as people have bought it then surely there is a demand for them?! Karim is just supplying what the people want at a price that probably covers the cost of a press, some overheads and a bit of profit....as most business work!!
3 years ago
Alex
yeah Pic4315 Posts
Saint LuciaManchester
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yes Alex...rolleyes in waht way exactly is he fleecing people?!? He makes something, he knows it will sell, so he makes some more and sells them at price. They run out buit its obvious that more will sell, so he makes more. This is called "good business strategy".... or in thick-fuckers terms(for you) "Supply and demand". If youre pissed opff because he decided to make some more then quite honestly youre pretty wierd. businesses all over the world do it every day...........
however...that point aside....u still appear to be missing the point comnpletely.

Karim said up there /\/\/\ that it is NOT true that there was only 30 available....you appear to have made this up.


i havent made this up goose- i specifically remember them saying there were 30 copies ONLY. and i dont know what business terms you go by- good business strategy is supplying your goods to the customer with value for money...not decieving them which is what is happening here...

he said that there were 30 copies, and thats y they were £30 a pop. now say if tidy did that with all their releases, or say every producer did that with all their releases- would you not raise an eyebrow?...

i take it that would be just good business strategy to "THICK FUCKERS" like you....screwu

and by the way, did you not hear me earlier? if you dont like the post then fuck off out of it...are you seriously that sad that your looking for an arguement with someone you dont know at 1.30 in the afternoon, but i suppose your pretty bored arent you- school doesnt finish till 3.30

now grow up you little prick and just fuck off

3 years ago
E Lloyd
elloyd Pic929 Posts
TaiwanBournemouth but in Taiwan
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Fuck off yer knob. call me a tit.

U said, he was doing so he could earn a living. I pointed that it wasn't. Try reading what people write instead of goin off on one.

It was a response to your stupid comment that he does it for a living. Its not for a living is it? I ain't got a problem with anyone earning from what they're doing and a bit more.

What's annoying is 30quid a pop for remixes which were supposed to be of limited quality, but fuckin ain't.

No, the people that bought em ain't bothered me at all mate.

All this fuckin business talk of yours. Surely u realise false advertisement?
3 years ago
E Lloyd
elloyd Pic929 Posts
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I deffo remember reading about 30 or at least limited copies.

Why does Alex need to e-mail karim to talk about it. Karim just wants it out the way, ave him e-mail him. Not reply n hope he dont bring it up again.

Think about it...if they were not originally limited. How could u start with a price of 30quid. Ur an idiot mate
3 years ago
Goose
goose Pic5149 Posts
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Alex- who said i didnt like it knobrot?? just think its crap thread, still gonna say what i like!
Good business strategy is increasing your profit margins you dim-low. you think he will do that by giving all his ideas away?!
Even if he did say 30 copies and has now increased it....who gives a shit?!? can someone not change their mind?!
I wouldnt give a dog shit if it was karim doing it or Tidy doing it or your aunt vera doing it. The business principles are the same. If you have a marketable item you sell as many as possible.
Why should someone shoot themselves in the foot by NOT doing it just because it upsets a few numptys on banging tunes.
If you dont like it you dont have top pay it. Though your issue whould be with those that DO pay it as if they didnt, the prices would have to come down. So blame those that have bought it for pushing demand up and thus maintaining price!
3 years ago
Alex
yeah Pic4315 Posts
Saint LuciaManchester
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"Think about it...if they were not originally limited. How could u start with a price of 30quid. Ur an idiot mate"

 

^^ word


Post edited by owner 18/01/2006 13:40:53
3 years ago
Caz
cazcaz Pic6164 Posts
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Everybody CALLLLM! The best way to sort it is to contact Karim then nobody gets confused our out
3 years ago
Goose
goose Pic5149 Posts
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Fuck off yer knob. call me a tit.

U said, he was doing so he could earn a living. I pointed that it wasn't. Try reading what people write instead of goin off on one.

It was a response to your stupid comment that he does it for a living. Its not for a living is it? I ain't got a problem with anyone earning from what they're doing and a bit more.

What's annoying is 30quid a pop for remixes which were supposed to be of limited quality, but fuckin ain't.

No, the people that bought em ain't bothered me at all mate.

All this fuckin business talk of yours. Surely u realise false advertisement?


AGAIN- just for you titboy-
so because hes in a position where he earns a bit, it means hes not aloowed to put a price on his work?!

If i was an artist earning millions, and i painted the next masterpiece or something that i deemed was really good, do u think id sell it cheap to do favours to people i didnt even know?! would i fuck, and neither would you. You would make as much as you could out of it as another chance might not come along. Same with Nike....shall they start giving away free airmaxes? or aston martin giving away free cars as they earn enough?! of course not u tit!
Crap point to make!!

If the price is what pisses you off then surely its the people that have bought it that you should be pissed off at? as if no one bought it the price would have to come down, but as people have bought it then surely there is a demand for them?! Karim is just supplying what the people want at a price that probably covers the cost of a press, some overheads and a bit of profit....as most business work!!




3 years ago
DJB
djb Pic271 Posts
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Alex.. why does it bother you this much mate?? Whether there are 30 coipes or more is not the point.. even if there are 100 pressed the track is still rare.. Karim puts a lot of effort into his music and has got every right to charge what he wants for these tracks.. what about when people were selling underrave for 200 notes plus.. i didnt see anybody moaning about that.. it is upto the buyer at the end of the day.. if they think its worth the cash they will pay it.. it's like everything in life.. some will rate things higher than others..

I dont think there is really the need to come on the board and saying how much it pisses you off.. im sure if you could do it mate u would.. i know i would!!!

Post edited by owner 18/01/2006 13:44:37
3 years ago
Long In The Tooth
marchei2003 Pic1604 Posts
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a living mate? there's a living n then taking the piss.

When u earn 300quid or so a gig. Do one of them a week, thats 1,200 a month, 16,800 quid a year. Thats a living innit?

If ur talkin about dj, producers makin a living. U reckon he pays royalities for those 30quid remixes?

I usually agree with a lot of what you post mate.. but this sort of statement winds me up.



whys it wind u up?


It winds me because I think who are you to make a statement on;

a) what Karim earns

and

b) whether or not that constitutes making a living or not

Personally I say fair play - he wants to make money from something he enjoys.. I certainly wish I did.  Who's to criticise him for that.

People buy his records because they want to.  Supply and demand.

And even if your attempts to calculate what that might mean over a year are correct, £16k isn't exactly a lot of money is it!  If I was earning that amount of cash I'd definitely be trying to make as much extra as I could.

 

3 years ago
E Lloyd
elloyd Pic929 Posts
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Alex- who said i didnt like it knobrot?? just think its crap thread, still gonna say what i like!
Good business strategy is increasing your profit margins you dim-low. you think he will do that by giving all his ideas away?!
Even if he did say 30 copies and has now increased it....who gives a shit?!? can someone not change their mind?!
I wouldnt give a dog shit if it was karim doing it or Tidy doing it or your aunt vera doing it. The business principles are the same. If you have a marketable item you sell as many as possible.
Why should someone shoot themselves in the foot by NOT doing it just because it upsets a few numptys on banging tunes.
If you dont like it you dont have top pay it. Though your issue whould be with those that DO pay it as if they didnt, the prices would have to come down. So blame those that have bought it for pushing demand up and thus maintaining price!


Sorry...steal his ideas???

A remix of Tony De Vit - I don't care

A remix of E-Trax - Let's rock

A remix of Tony De Vit - Resistence is Futile.

which only lets rock is actually any good

Mate...how can he change his mind? 30 quid for a limited tune, then flogs even more copies. That is conning people innit?
3 years ago
Goose
goose Pic5149 Posts
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"Think about it...if they were not originally limited. How could u start with a price of 30quid. Ur an idiot mate"

 


^^ word



how could you NOT start with a price of £30?? its HIS product....he can charge what he likes and make as many as he likes. If they dont sell its his own fault...if they do he has made profit.



3 years ago
Alex
yeah Pic4315 Posts
Saint LuciaManchester
Music Style Filth
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Alex- who said i didnt like it knobrot?? just think its crap thread, still gonna say what i like!
Good business strategy is increasing your profit margins you dim-low. you think he will do that by giving all his ideas away?!
Even if he did say 30 copies and has now increased it....who gives a shit?!? can someone not change their mind?!
I wouldnt give a dog shit if it was karim doing it or Tidy doing it or your aunt vera doing it. The business principles are the same. If you have a marketable item you sell as many as possible.
Why should someone shoot themselves in the foot by NOT doing it just because it upsets a few numptys on banging tunes.
If you dont like it you dont have top pay it. Though your issue whould be with those that DO pay it as if they didnt, the prices would have to come down. So blame those that have bought it for pushing demand up and thus maintaining price!


so the consumers are the biggest problem here...not the producers ripping people off.

i actually dont see why you have turned this into a business thread but ok...

say if you bought a limited edition original star wars poster for £30 after being told that there were only 30 of them. then goose, when they sold out of those, they decided, 'i know, even though they are limited, ill press another 30, and then when they run out, ill press another 30..'

do you not think that this a fucking immorale way of just making a few extra bucks? fair enough to sell them at £30 if they were going to stay limited, and he wasnt going to press anymore, because the tune would retain its value due to the fact that there werent so many of them knocking about...

but the fact that he sells them at 30, when he's pressed a shitload more of them (after he's told everyone that they are £30 because they are very limited), when he should have just pressed 500 and sold them off for a fiver each- thats actually a form of fraud...

and if your saying thats good business strategy- i fucking hope you never go into businessthumbsdown

3 years ago
Goose
goose Pic5149 Posts
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Alex.. why does it bother you this much mate?? Whether there are 30 coipes or more is not the point.. even if there are 100 pressed the track is still rare.. Karim puts a lot of effort into his music and has got every right to charge what he wants for these tracks.. what about when people were selling underrave for 200 notes plus.. i didnt see anybody moaning about that.. it is upto the buyer at the end of the day.. if they think its worth the cash they will pay it.. it's like everything in life.. some will rate things higher than others..

I dont think there is really the need to come on the board and saying how much it pisses you off.. im sure if you could do it mate u would.. i know i would!!!


the man puts in eglish what i have been getting irate about yawn
Well done sir thumbsup
3 years ago
E Lloyd
elloyd Pic929 Posts
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a living mate? there's a living n then taking the piss.

When u earn 300quid or so a gig. Do one of them a week, thats 1,200 a month, 16,800 quid a year. Thats a living innit?

If ur talkin about dj, producers makin a living. U reckon he pays royalities for those 30quid remixes?

I usually agree with a lot of what you post mate.. but this sort of statement winds me up.
whys it wind u up?


It winds me because I think who are you to make a statement on;


a) what Karim earns


and


b) whether or not that constitutes making a living or not


Personally I say fair play - he wants to make money from something he enjoys.. I certainly wish I did.  Who's to criticise him for that.


People buy his records because they want to.  Supply and demand.


And even if your attempts to calculate what that might mean over a year are correct, £16k isn't exactly a lot of money is it!  If I was earning that amount of cash I'd definitely be trying to make as much extra as I could.


 




mate...my point was in response to goose idiot of a response thats its for a living. Its not for a livng. I aint got a problem with ppl makin a bit extra. But when promising summat and then delivering is out of order.

There were limited releases of this tune, but its still for sale. Hows that work? It's conning people mate
3 years ago
E Lloyd
elloyd Pic929 Posts
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nah...just raises a different level of excitement.
3 years ago
Mr S
jarrod Pic4483 Posts
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Fuck are you a whinging pom or what? laughing

Really is your life that boring? Did dad smack you on the head with his limited promo release of his "Hits Of The 80's" album or something?

What about the hundreds of tunes out with stickers saying "limited 250 copies" or "limited 500 copies" ?? There has been fucking loads that have those stickers on them there was more than that pressed.. maybe it's an advertising ploy? rolleyes

Maybe I'm just assuming that the whole number of release thing is a farce.

In the end, if you don't like it, then don't support it. Others have and aren't complaining. Tell us where else you'll pick up these whites from then? tosser

3 years ago
E Lloyd
elloyd Pic929 Posts
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"Think about it...if they were not originally limited. How could u start with a price of 30quid. Ur an idiot mate"

 


^^ word



how could you NOT start with a price of £30?? its HIS product....he can charge what he likes and make as many as he likes. If they dont sell its his own fault...if they do he has made profit.

Well...why doesnt he sell all his tunes for 30quid then? Because they were limited releases, hence the fuck off price. Fuckin wake up mate.




3 years ago
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Goose always goes off on a tangent laughing
3 years ago
E Lloyd
elloyd Pic929 Posts
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Alex.. why does it bother you this much mate?? Whether there are 30 coipes or more is not the point.. even if there are 100 pressed the track is still rare.. Karim puts a lot of effort into his music and has got every right to charge what he wants for these tracks.. what about when people were selling underrave for 200 notes plus.. i didnt see anybody moaning about that.. it is upto the buyer at the end of the day.. if they think its worth the cash they will pay it.. it's like everything in life.. some will rate things higher than others..

I dont think there is really the need to come on the board and saying how much it pisses you off.. im sure if you could do it mate u would.. i know i would!!!



allot of effort? Have u heard this tunes for 30quid mate? They remixes and they're shit ones at that.
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