mixing bass

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sometimes good, sometimes bad. somethin told me that was the case.

when you mix for 4-5 minutes, i suppose a 3rd turntable would come in handy

yeah, with 2 tunes mixing in and out you could throw all kinds of stuff into the mix!

CD decks are best for that as they have memory cue points so you can set it all up. something im gonna get heavily into as theres not many HH/NRG DJ's mixing fully on 3 dex.

anything more the 2 decks should only be techno or something very basic . unless you do tricks on the 3rd .

it varries on both basslines your mixing . sometimes they just dont work togther because they are uncompatible with each other . osc is higher then the other or lfo or whatnot . its a gamble if you dont know them by heart

on bass heavey tracks it will sound like a giant bass sucking vaccum if you mix with the bass full in on both tracks. 

personally i don't like it.... and when DJ's do that it makes me cringe every time.

im an experimentalist though.

just gonna try loads of different things.

I cant really see how you can't mix the bass either, if dont then you get that fucking horrible part in a mix where its just beats going out of one tune and beats coming in on another, its not as bad a a big rig, but it is shite IMO. you lose all the energy out of the set for a while doing that.

hehe 3 tracks together sound good if its all basic minimal music . 7 layers of synths in 3 different songs with 3 basslines & kicks will have a ''cancel'' quality . hard chuggy techno works cus its mainly percussions & the synths are basic & not as many complicated layers so it fits real nice . thats why carl cox can spin on 18 decks :P

hehe you know more then me man .... it aint my scene 

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I tend to disagree with that statement actually, at the right time you can drop the pace a bit and then launch into a big phat bassline - works really well, Wardman is a master at this, times it perfectly!

I think what Daft is talking about Jon, is when it's just kicks going together. Going clean.

I like doing this. Mind you, if it's timed wrong, yes, lots of energy will be lost. But if the bassline goes out on the playing track and just has the kick for 64 beats or whatever and the incoming track has some kind of rising, filtered vocal loop or percussive loop coming in, and then....BOOM!!!!! new bassline comes in.....

Crowd....goes.....bonkers.

So....mix basslines together, no. Mix kicks together, not so bad.

i think what people are warning you about is the phase of the two different types of Low Hz tones.

what you don't want is for them to cancel eachother out.  there are cases where it will not happen and 2 basslines or kicks will work great together.

agreed and its more exciting

i always try and find those rare mixes.

i never remember them though  

 spot on what i meant. what you said about the basslines finishing then starting straight after the one going out finishes is cool. I do that all the time if the basslines big enough or chunky enough to carry it off, just squeeze the life out of the one going out on the last 4 beats and nail the other straight in. HUGE if done right with the right tunes, but with tunes not big enough to carry it off then sometimes the basslines will go together sweetly and example

mark gray 99.9 (glazby mix) with Little Miss Natalie vs test tube babies - fuck the DJ

if you start 99.9 at the right point in the track about half way on the break fuck the DJ then slam them both together when fuck the dj  kicks in then they will both go until the break on 99.9 it sounds awesome, both basslines just toughen the whole mix right up. they dont cancel each other out either has you have to have the mix smack on to do that which is hard to do for about 4 mins. even slightly out of time it still sounds in though.

suppose what im saying is its down to the tunes, be boring if they were all mixed the same, or we all mixed them all the same. 

^^^ Depends on the tracks really.

I normally do the same thing you're on about. Have the incoming track with the bass down and then switch. But sometimes I would kill the bass on the playing track and then just slam in the incoming with bass all the way up. Not normally tho.

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^^^ Depends on the tracks really.

 

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You guys completely kill the bass line on the live track? Hm, I never really do that.

Normally bring in a track with a little to no bass .. and slowly add a bit while reducing the other one .. then when the cued track kicks in ill switch it to 12 o'clock and knock the other track down to 9 o'clock. The mix sounds a lot more tuff that way IMO ..

I normally do the same thing you're on about. Have the incoming track with the bass down and then switch. But sometimes I would kill the bass on the playing track and then just slam in the incoming with bass all the way up. Not normally tho.

 

as i've said b4.... its a little different with every mix.

and using things like 9 and 12 are just guide markers obviously because it should depend on the 2 tracks and the system you're playing and especially the mixer.  you just should be listening for phase.