New Tech/Trance track - samples from vanilla sky

Hey

new track guys, around 5 mins long

going for euphoric trance, using samples from Vanilla Sky (amazing film)

nearly done, just some percussive things im thinking of changing, just put in a new snare today (what u think)

anyone who gives feedback ill return favour, just post link on thread.

http://www.speedyshare.com/605558608.html

tah

 

Im no expert but your beat is getting lost under the synths and there seems to be a clickin like its out of time when you move down the note! Maybe cut back a bit on the reverb/delay on some things too! I like a bit more going on but there is stuff like this going around! How long are you making tunes?

hey

thanks for feedback, been making tunes on and off for few years. only recently got the right equipment to start practising properly. This is my second tune since using cubase. Fruitylopps was holding me back for ages and so happy ive put that program where it belongs - the recycle bin (please fryuity fans, this is my opinion. I aint up for another debate)

See what u mean about the beat, it needs some more potency. also somethings not right with the key change, ill have to have a look into that. Im improving all the time which im pleased about, and fairly happy with this tune so far

 

hey not bad at all, think kick could come through in the mix a bit more as already stated, like the tracks as a whole, good work

- Az

ps. Just out of interested, what was holdin u back in FL? What couldn't u do, im usin loads of diff daw's at mo n just wanna kno pro's and con's. Thanx

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Don't think the kicks need to come through, think its all your synths n perc that are hogging up all that bottom end of the mix so ur kick ain't got any room, other than that wicked mate, gettin fond of it

The only thing Cubase is better than FL at is Plugin Delay Compensation and Hardware Routing, that is all, if FL managed this a bit better i'd still be using it myself. It is more than capable imo

Although i do like Cubase as its my main DAW now, some of the features are a bit long winded

anymore feedback guys, and not a fruity discussion please please

(I never learn!!!! never diss fruityloops, god the fans are like fundamentalists or something)

So guys, im not really an expert on audio technology and think this may be downfall. I dont understand about not clogging up the low end etc etc..... could someone explain a little more, cheers

Mark

ok i like the idea of the track and all the stuff is there. but you really gotta sort out the mixdown, its a bit muddy and clicky if you get me.

clogging up the low end means you have too many unnesessary frequencies in the lower regions i.e 100-200hz and below that are sucking the life out of the bass and kick. You need to give every sound it's own place in the mix, try high passing your main synth at about 300-500hz and see how much clearer your bass and kick will sound!

are you ok with EQ and compression. That's the key to a prefessional sound, god knows i've been trying to nail it for 1 1/2 years and i still get pissed off with it

hey

thanks a lot for feedback, appreciated.

I understand a little on eqing, but very very little. i think what youre saying is I need to seperate the tracks so each part has its own frequencys so they all come out as a whole. So bass kick in low frequenct, perhaps synth mid and hats high , have no idea how to do this though ? . How would I change the frequencys of the tracks? Unsure on  compresions also??

ar man, wish I knew someone who understands this stuff!!!

im keen to learn, its just getting around the technical side of things im struggling with! sure im not the only one with this problem out there in the complex world of making dance music..

again thanks,

well if you dont know much you gotta very long road ahead of you! definately search google for tips on EQ and compression.

your right about giving everything it's own space in the mix.

post your questions in the dj and studio forum, they will get answered

wouldn't compress anything yet mate, i'd get the EQ sorted, as already said, imagine a track being a rainbow and each sound a colour, u don't want them leaking into each others part of the rainbow or you wouldnt be able to see them, same with synths n other samples with low freqs intruding into ur kick n bass freqs, making the kick hard to make out as much.

There i go wi another shit metaphor, or is it a simile lol.

Compression is mainly (take this with a pinch of salt) used to make things louder without distortion by making the loud part of a sample quieter n the quieter parts louder, increasing the average volume but sacrificing the 'dynamic range', so i wudnt worry too much bout that yet.

The track as a mean riff for the style n like it alot

yep, i get that metephor - well said

but how do I actually change eqs? Im going to google it but perhaps a tiny explanation would be amazing -

wow, when you thought music production was complex enuff!!!

just add a parametric equalizer mate, subtractive eq'in is rumoured to be loads better than additive, cuttin freqs. For example, a hi hat has very low freqs but u cant hear them, so they are taking space up in bottom end of mix, so if i cut them, it will sound the exact same, but wont be hoggin the lower end

im gettin hang of things myself m8 lol but if u av any dramas add me on msn with this email... inflikt@stomp23.co.uk - Az

nice! hey, ill add you on msn - always good to have someone who can lend a hand. I get you on the hi hat thing, im going to play around tonight and see how it goes.

sound m8, same for anyone else, kno im not exactly gr8 producer but studied a bit on acoustics so the ideas there lol. Like i said tho m8, the energy in that riff is wicked